David Koch

[Diogenes]

Heterosexuals Organised for Moral Environment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sexual Abuse: A Major Cause Of Homosexuality?

And of course, there is their tendency to molest children.


Voice of Sesame Street's 'Elmo' accused of affair with underaged teen

The man who voices beloved children’s character “Elmo” took a leave of absence, after he was accused of having an affair with an underaged boy, Sesame Street officials said today.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/voic ... vcqxnL7B2O

[Stubby]

Really? You want to play it that way?
Posting stories about gay people that 'prove' all these 'arguments'?

For every one you post, we should be able to find many more involving heterosexuals. I mean no heterosexual man has ever, in the history of whatever Christian sect/religion, ever had an affair with an under age girl. Or conversely a woman with an underage boy. And if they did it was probably because a homosexual told them too, right?

And while the list of references of impressive, i have no doubt the authors of that hate mongering religious whack-job website picked data to suit their religious hatred. It might be that some of the authors of the references are of the likes of Kent Novind, Ray Comfort or Ken Ham.

People who think they can cure homosexuality are severely deluded.

What make me really sad though? Is that in that website you could replace the word homosexual with black, jew, or women and still make the same arguments.

Let go of the hatred!

[Diogenes]

Really? You want to play it that way?
Posting stories about gay people that 'prove' all these 'arguments'?

For every one you post, we should be able to find many more involving heterosexuals.

Absolutely! And since homosexuals make up approximately 2% of the population, there should be 49 times as many examples of heterosexual molestation as Homosexual molestation. I don't think you are going to like the results if and when you look into this.

I mean no heterosexual man has ever, in the history of whatever Christian sect/religion, ever had an affair with an under age girl. Or conversely a woman with an underage boy. And if they did it was probably because a homosexual told them too, right?

Naw, it was a lack of control over their sexual urges, which is also a common problem amongst homosexuals.

And while the list of references of impressive, i have no doubt the authors of that hate mongering religious whack-job website picked data to suit their religious hatred. It might be that some of the authors of the references are of the likes of Kent Novind, Ray Comfort or Ken Ham.

Most people do not even know of these people whom you mention. Only someone who seeks out this information is likely to know this, and that identifies you as a likely involved partisan. As Groucho would say, "I resemble that remark." With a name like "Stubby", no doubt you are a bottom.

People who think they can cure homosexuality are severely deluded.

I wouldn't say "severely". There are those people who claim to have been homosexual and who now claim not to be. Given that we do not understand the condition exactly, and given that there may possibly be more than one vector responsible, it is just as presumptuous to say that a cure is impossible as it is to say that one is possible.

What make me really sad though? Is that in that website you could replace the word homosexual with black, jew, or women and still make the same arguments.

I know that Homosexual activists have been making this claim for a very long time, and of course overlooking the fact that Blacks, in particular, Detest being compared to homosexuals. They don't see themselves as being at all similar to homosexuals, and often become quite offended when such a comparison is made.

Let go of the hatred!

It isn't hatred, it's prudence. For most of this country's existence, Homosexuality was regarded as a form of sickness or insanity. Society had the example of Homosexual behavior from the Bible, and therefore regarded such behavior as a threat. (The City and Tribe of Benjamin were very nearly wiped out because of homosexuality.)

Given the levels of homosexual molestation of children and the large quantity of various diseases prevalent amongst so many of them, regarding them as a threat is not irrational. It is quite rational.

(And we haven't even started discussing people like John Wayne Gayce, Jeffery Dahmer, Henry Lee Lucas, and Charles Ng, just to name a few.)

[ladajo]

since homosexuals make up approximately 2% of the population

This is an arguable point, not an absolute and with potentially great error range. The Media and Entertainment industry certainly paint it much higher...

[Stubby]

Thanks D for the great laugh.
You are a sick, bigoted person.

[krenshala]

since homosexuals make up approximately 2% of the population

This is an arguable point, not an absolute and with potentially great error range. The Media and Entertainment industry certainly paint it much higher...

I've been under the impression for at least a couple of decades now that 10% of most mammal species are homosexual, or at least have homosexual tendencies. Wolves, dolphins, monkeys, humans ...

[GIThruster]

Homosexuality has been documented in about 500 different species, which is far fewer than 1% of all species, and the percentage of homosexuals in those species never approaches 10%. That's just pro-gay propaganda. Appearance of homosexual behavior in a species is generally less than 1% too.

Homosexuality is always the "odd' or "queer" exception to the rule since homosexuals select themselves out of the gene pool. If you grant the gay pride claim that their behavior is genetic, then you're stuck with the fact that genetic trait can and should be left to die off. Forcing heterosexuals to adopt a position of acceptance toward homosexuality is obviously not working and in fact, this extremely progressive attitude is one of the reasons the Islamic world considers the US "The Great Satan". Accepting homosexuality is in fact placing all America at risk.

And just saying, I've had gay friends since the 70's, before coming out of the closet was chic. I'm not a hater, but you have to be a blind idiot to not note gays are never happy people. The vast majority of gays are gay by choice as a sort of cultural rebellion, of the same sort that urges folks to get their eyebrow pierced. Likewise, the vast majority of gays were indeed sexually abused in childhood. So there are certainly at least 2 vectors at work--one genetic and one the consequence of abuse. I don't see a moral imperative to accommodate either one of these, especially when it makes westerners targets for terror.

[Stubby]

Kill all the queers so you can be safe.
Throw them in prison for our own good.

Good thing Islamic terrorists don't hate Jews...because you would also have to kill them all off to appease the terrosrists.

[TDPerk]

Oddly enough, none of Diogenes posts actually address my point. Go figure.

[Diogenes]

since homosexuals make up approximately 2% of the population

This is an arguable point, not an absolute and with potentially great error range. The Media and Entertainment industry certainly paint it much higher...

Indeed they do. A survey a few months back showed that some of the public believing that 25% of the population is gay. As far as I can tell, the actual number is around 1.6%, but I rounded it up to two because the math is easier.

The number is in flux, but it generally hovers around 2%.

[Diogenes]

Thanks D for the great laugh.
You are a sick, bigoted person.

I noticed you didn't bother rebutting the points I made. As usual, it's easier to just malign. I guess what i'm trying to say is "Screw you!"

On the other hand, you'd probably like that, so i'll change it to go F*** yourself, "Stubby."

[Diogenes]

since homosexuals make up approximately 2% of the population

This is an arguable point, not an absolute and with potentially great error range. The Media and Entertainment industry certainly paint it much higher...

I've been under the impression for at least a couple of decades now that 10% of most mammal species are homosexual, or at least have homosexual tendencies. Wolves, dolphins, monkeys, humans ...

Other than bonobos, (Not really homosexual, more like "don't care") what examples do you have of homosexuality among animals? I've seen plenty of stories over the years where Homosexual activists try to impart homosexual motivation on the behavior of animals, and often times it is just a feeble attempt at justifying their own behavior. ( They also search through history attempting to put the homosexual label on any famous person whose seems convenient for this purpose. )

Among the things I have read is the suggestion that because female birds will nest together, they must be Lesbians. What is left out of this argument is the evidence that the birds are beaking each other's cooters.
Bulls mount anything vaguely cow shaped, and often do so to demonstrate Dominance of the lesser bulls.



Again, what examples of any homosexual behavior among animals do you know of, or are you just repeating the crap that Homosexual activists and the media (but I repeat myself) have been saying?

The incidence of Homosexuality among humans doesn't approach anything remotely close to 10%. That figure came from the Kinsey Report ( A seriously sick twisted man. If you really want to know how sick and twisted, i'll look up my old links on this subject. ) and is the result of his interviews of Prison Inmates, who even though not expressly homosexual will often become situationally homosexual. Most of them prefer women, but figure "any port in a storm." Once released from prison, they go back to women as quickly as possible.

[Diogenes]

And just saying, I've had gay friends since the 70's, before coming out of the closet was chic. I'm not a hater, but you have to be a blind idiot to not note gays are never happy people.

And this point is unknown to most people. The number one cause of death for Homosexuals is suicide. They aren't "gay" (happy) they are really hurting inside, and they don't know why.

Early Self-Identification as Gay: Subjects who had viewed themselves as homosexual or bisexual at an earlier age were more likely to attempt suicide.

Early Sexual Activity: Teens who had attempted suicide were more likely to have had sexual experiences at an early age.

Broken Homes: Only 27% of suicide attempters had parents who were married (vs. 50% of the non-attempters).

Sexual Molestation: 61% of the suicide attempters had been sexually abused (vs. only 29% of the non-attempters).

Illegal Drug Use: 85% of the attempters had used illicit drugs (vs. 63% of non-attempters).

Illegal Activities: 51% of the attempters had been arrested (vs. only 28% of non-attempters).

Prostitution: 29% of the attempters had been involved in prostitution (vs. 17% of non-attempters).

Gender Conflicts: 36.6% of the attempters were classified as feminine (vs. 17.7% of non-attempters).

http://www.narth.com/docs/gayteens.html

RESULTS: Suicide attempts were reported by 28. 1 % of bisexual/homosexual males, 20.5% of bisexual/homosexual females, 14.5% of heterosexual females, and 4.2% of heterosexual males. For males, but not females, bisexual/homosexual orientation was associated with suicidal intent (odds ratio [OR] = 3.61 95% confidence interval [CI = 1.40, 9.36) and attempts (OR=7.10; 95% CI=3.05, 16.53). CONCLUSIONS: There is evidence of a strong association between suicide risk and bisexuality or homosexuality in males.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1508407/

[Diogenes]

Kill all the queers so you can be safe.

We used to do exactly that. It was Thomas Jefferson who first proposed a penalty less than death.

Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.

Throw them in prison for our own good.

And we did that too, up till about the 1960s or so.

Good thing Islamic terrorists don't hate Jews...because you would also have to kill them all off to appease the terrosrists.

Nobody is suggesting that we kill Homosexuals. They do that to themselves quickly enough. It is the notion that this is normal and acceptable behavior that needs to be killed.

It is a serious and debilitating condition for those who suffer from it.

First, Chaz Bono is not a man. She is a woman who has undergone radical surgeries and is taking male hormones in order to look like a man. That isn't a political position, it's a biological reality. Chaz Bono wants to be thought of as male, but she is not male.

You may disagree with me on philosophical grounds, arguing that behaving like a man and feeling like a man is tantamount to being a man, but that argument does nothing to change the biological reality.

Second, while Chaz Bono may now feel that her journey toward self-acceptance has ended, I am not convinced. I say this because, absent the gender politics involved, I was taught to consider Chaz Bono's contention that she is male as a psychotic delusion-a fixed and false belief.

Psychosis is not a predictor of long-term emotional well-being or stability.

http://health.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.ht ... pageNum=-1


As it should happen, I discovered last year that Chastity Bono had been repeatedly molested by a Lesbian babysitter into who's care Cher had entrusted her precious daughter.


Sam sex molestation of a child and it grows up homosexual? Whodda thunk?

[Diogenes]

Oddly enough, none of Diogenes posts actually address my point. Go figure.

And what point can be deduced from this statement of yours?

I think any objective study of it shows that he misery death is inflicted on people who have gay regardless of the merits in doing it, without it being a part of the issue itself.

I was being polite the first time when I failed to mention that it doesn't even make sense. If you want me to address a point, you need to at least communicate the point you wished addressed. Re-write it so that it is clearer, and I will try to answer it.