You don't for example assume two cameramen, one a professional, a news reporter and an "expert" are all morons and that anyone with a high school education in photography could have figured this out.
50% of the population have an IQ below average. Seeing that this is Fox news, I would say chances are high that these guys do so as well.
I still remember with shudders how Fox new from Utah reported about "Theta healing". They also brought "experts" that claimed that this was using "quantum physics" to heal people by touching them with their hands...
I am just saying that news reporters are not in any way superhumans, or even above average intelligence most of the time.
First off, beam propulsion still needs propellant. You've merely offloaded the power generation. Since conventional propulsion uses energetic reactions for propulsion, you haven't saved much and you create the problems that craft are then all completely reliant upon their power from a ground station and that such stations are so expensive no one will ever build them.
M-E technology bypasses these economically invincible issues. It makes craft able to fly without a mission control and without multi-trillion dollar investments in infrastructure.
And that all aside, I see no evidence from any reading of the vid that what we're seeing is an M-E powered craft. I don't know what it is, but just because I don't think it's birds or bugs doesn't mean I think there is a technological breakthrough here that happened in someone's garage.
M-E tech is very difficult multi-disciplanary stuff. Odds of this being ET's work are far better than it being some garage engineer's work.
Look at the power curve folks! If this is an object at significant range, the craft is pulling millions of gees. The only explanation for such a thing is a warp craft, IMHO. Certainly no beam powered craft can do something like what we're seeing in the vid. That's absurd. Titanium would turn to putty under such strains.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
Look at the power curve folks! If this is an object at significant range, the craft is pulling millions of gees. The only explanation for such a thing is a warp craft,
All I can do at the sight of something like this is to facepalm!
GIT, dude, please take a step back, take a deep breath and look at the situation from a rational POV.
Skippy, maybe you don't know anything about how a camera works? That would explain why you continually sound like a retard.
Things in a camera's view that are seriously out of the focal distance don't appear in the sight of the camera. The camera's focus has a distance, and a "depth of field" around that distance that defines what will be imaged by the camera.
If you focus a camera at infinity and move your hand in front of the camera even at relatively low speed, your hand will be invisible to the camera. All it does is dim the image. What the camera can actually capture is the heart of the art of photography, and anyone with any real education about photography thinks in F-stops, aperture, focal length and depth of field, or what will be in focus at any given length.
If the moving objects in the vids were distant, they were moving at very high speed, and reversing their direction generating hundreds, thousands or even millions of gees acceleration during those maneuvers.
If rather the objects caught on the vids were close, like a bug; then they would only generate minor accelerations. However, the person using the camera would know that his depth of field included very close range, and would NOT make the claim that these were not birds or bugs.
So just get a clue. If you don't know anything about photography, don't pretend and waste our time in the discussion! None of us really care at all about your preconceived notions and how you lie to yourself to protect your delusions.
If you have no real understanding to share, please, spare us all the useless ranting and endless posting. You are not worth the time.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
GIThruster wrote:
First off, beam propulsion still needs propellant. You've merely offloaded the power generation. Since conventional propulsion uses energetic reactions for propulsion, you haven't saved much and you create the problems that craft are then all completely reliant upon their power from a ground station and that such stations are so expensive no one will ever build them.
Unless you're going to send the lightcraft out of the atmosphere, it won't need onboard propellant at all. Heating the air beneath the lightcraft will suffice.
Keep in mind that these lightcraft can be very small. So you don't need a zillion-watt laser (i.e. too expensive to build) to get them going. The last figure I saw was sending 1.8 ounces 223 feet into the air with a 10 kW infrared laser but that was something like 12 years ago.
Maneuverability is provided by tilting the mirrored underside to direct the angle of incidence. Since they're operating in air, I'd expect them to slow down pretty quickly due to drag when the laser powers down, and pick up just as quickly.
Since they're small and there's no real perspective to compare them against in the sky, they could appear to be going ridiculously fast. But no one was hearing sonic booms.
Anyhow, who knows. That's just what watching the videos brought to mind.
The fact that it was shot at what looks like a plowed field is telling to me, I'm thinking either humming birds chasing insects or the insects themselves, flying close to the lens. The thing to do would be try filming it away from the dirt, from grass or concrete.
True only if you're using a single ground station. Right?
That's correct, but the alternative is there is a sky-based laser station involved in this episode, which presupposes a trillion dollar investment.
I think we're safe to say this is not a laser based propulsion system. I know the people at DoD who proposed such most of a decade ago and they didn't get funding. In fact, they retired.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
choff wrote:The fact that it was shot at what looks like a plowed field is telling to me, I'm thinking either humming birds chasing insects or the insects themselves, flying close to the lens. The thing to do would be try filming it away from the dirt, from grass or concrete.
I have actually done quite a bit of filming hummingbirds. You need really FAST photography to catch those critters. Even 1/2000 second time stop does not catch their wings--they move that fast! In my case, I used 10 square feet of mirror under direct sunlight to put extreme light on the hummingbirds and their feeder top and bottom, where I expected rightly to see them appear, and still I could not get a clear picture of the birds wings--they just disappeared.
Fact is, unless all the people involved in this vid were lying, or idiotic, they were not shooting anything conventional. Given they stood up to say they were not shooting anything conventional, I'd say we should take them at their word.
Fit your preconceptions in around the plausible facts.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
OK guys it was bugs, on a ccd with a large f stop and lens set at infinity.
mystery solved, reproducible
Bad guy "If it was't for the blasted kids in that van I would have got away with it."
SCUBYDOO "Rest go raggy, I am hungrrerrry"
You don't for example assume two cameramen, one a professional, a news reporter and an "expert" are all morons and that anyone with a high school education in photography could have figured this out.
50% of the population have an IQ below average. Seeing that this is Fox news, I would say chances are high that these guys do so as well.
What an ass you are. Unlike the watchers of the other networks, the people who watch Fox news know better than to spend money they don't have. Apparently it takes a high IQ to really F*** things up. Given what Super-Genius Wunderkind Robert McNamara did to us during the Vietnam war, I would say that's about right.
Skipjack wrote:
I still remember with shudders how Fox new from Utah reported about "Theta healing". They also brought "experts" that claimed that this was using "quantum physics" to heal people by touching them with their hands...
Of course, you don't note how many similar broadcasts have been made on the other Networks. I watched ABC News for decades, and I recall seeing all types of the same sort of nonsense, but you only notice it when Fox News does it.
I have to laugh when people complain about FOX. Skippy no doubt prefers all news reflect his point of view. It obviously disturbs him when the news includes things he doesn't like and he needs to be protected from those stories. That's why for example, the other media outlets have not covered what is likely the biggest news story this last year--the military assault on the US embassy in Benghazi. Skippy prefers that the news be managed so he and those like him will never be challenged as regards our president's leadership. Some call this propaganda. Some may liken it to what happened in Germany in the years leading up to WWII. I think though, the simplest explanation for the disinformation, cover ups, lies, and betrayal of the public's trust is that people like Skippy cannot be exposed to facts that don't square with their world view. The media has evolved the way it has purely for market reasons, and it is precisely because people like Skippy freak out when exposed to the truth, that he is protected from it by his choice of news service. Cowards and fools get just what they're after. Skippy is not after the truth, or lets face it, would he have voted for OBama?
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
