10KW LENR demonstrator (new thread)

KitemanSA · Post by **KitemanSA** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:49 pm

MSimon wrote: Rossi is brilliant.

Only if it works.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:22 pm

Ahh, more secret factories and customers. Fantastic!

"The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round..."

How long can this be strung along?

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:54 pm

KitemanSA wrote:
MSimon wrote: Rossi is brilliant.
Only if it works. :wink:

It is working. (the question of course is what does "it" refer to?)

jcoady · Post by **jcoady** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:09 pm

Rossi mentioned in slide 21 of this video presentation.

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433866

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:24 pm

Ahh, more secret factories and customers. Fantastic!

"The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round..."

How long can this be strung along?

More flim flam...
More promises. Now it is february and that will turn into march and then april. Always great announcements, never anything substancial...

sdg · Post by **sdg** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:37 pm

Joseph Chikva wrote:
sdg wrote:By the way, what country do you come from?
I am from Georgia, South Caucasus.

Your country has a remarkable history!

Is Russian then your "second" language after Georgian?

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:22 pm

MSimom,

Uh. The purpose of a patent is disclosure. The purpose of a secret is avoid disclosure.

So he is working to get protection by disclosure while keeping the essentials secret.

It is beginning to become clear to me. Rossi is brilliant.

I assume you are being sarcastic, but Rossi's strategy makes a lot of sense. The patent situation is in such as mess, because various patent offices refuse to grant patents for anything smelling of cold fusion, that there is not much else he can do.

When this all comes to a head the lawyers will have a field day and suck megabucks from the inventors. By applying for a patent he sets priority and can possibly release the real secret part at a later stage of discussions with the patent office. Meanwhile his competitors are kept in the dark. My guess is that most of what is now being done has become public knowledge long ago and so is unpatentable. Patent law is a farce.

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:00 pm

sdg wrote:Is Russian then your "second" language after Georgian?

Third. I also speak Armenian.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:56 pm

No wonder you get angry all the time. Stuck between Turkey and Russia.
Just what until they fight the war again...

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:01 pm

parallel wrote:MSimom,
Uh. The purpose of a patent is disclosure. The purpose of a secret is avoid disclosure.

So he is working to get protection by disclosure while keeping the essentials secret.

It is beginning to become clear to me. Rossi is brilliant.
I assume you are being sarcastic, but Rossi's strategy makes a lot of sense. The patent situation is in such as mess, because various patent offices refuse to grant patents for anything smelling of cold fusion, that there is not much else he can do.

When this all comes to a head the lawyers will have a field day and suck megabucks from the inventors. By applying for a patent he sets priority and can possibly release the real secret part at a later stage of discussions with the patent office. Meanwhile his competitors are kept in the dark. My guess is that most of what is now being done has become public knowledge long ago and so is unpatentable. Patent law is a farce.

Ahhhh, the old "There's a conspiracy I swear, I saw it on the internet" mixed with the ever popular, "It is a bunch of crap anyway, so why even do it? I saw it on the internet" defense.

So where is your Rossilimit Parallel? When will you admit it has been enough? Will you put it on your gravestone, "I guess Rossi was full of it after all" once you die of old age and he is still promising vaporware?

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:03 pm

And as further note, still not a real peep from Rossi on DGT's latest. Only a half peep at best.

Clowns!

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:07 pm

jcoady wrote:Rossi mentioned in slide 21 of this video presentation.

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1433866

No Christmas card for Celani from Rossi this year.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:31 am

ladajo,
You are a really slow learner.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:31 am

I'll take that as a complement from one who can not learn.

Thanks for the personal attack by the way. Really helps make your case.

So when will you answer my question about what it will take for you to recognize Rossi is full of shit? Or are you going to Ostrich the whole thing, keep clicking your heels together and chanting "there is no place like home", while wearing an "E-Cat Rules" T-shirt?

You drank the cool aid and liked it. Rossimart will keep serving it up as long as you will drink it. Too bad it has no nutritional value.

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:32 am

ladajo wrote:No wonder you get angry all the time. Stuck between Turkey and Russia.
Just what until they fight the war again...

That's only your vision. The reality is in that Russia can be splitted again. And several countries may be "stuck between Turkey and Russia".

And what is to "get angry all the time"? If I say to Rossi fans (rossibots) not to have much expectations on ecat? Or when I advise you not to have much expectations on Polywell? As by my vision both situations are very similar.