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GIThruster
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The ancient Greeks frowned upon all incest and outlawed it between siblings of the same mother. In almost all cultures throughout human history it is forbidden. The glaring exception was ancient Egypt where the royal family heavily indulged themselves in every sort of incest--but they were telling themselves and everyone else they were gods. I guess rank has its privileges.
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It was a joke. I was poking fun at MSimon & co. "Classical values". Because most people would see no effective difference between pederasty and incest.
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Post by choff »

GIThruster wrote:The ancient Greeks frowned upon all incest and outlawed it between siblings of the same mother. In almost all cultures throughout human history it is forbidden. The glaring exception was ancient Egypt where the royal family heavily indulged themselves in every sort of incest--but they were telling themselves and everyone else they were gods. I guess rank has its privileges.
Classic example would be King Tut's family starting from a few generations before.
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The most famous example was the Ptolemies. Cleopatra married her younger bother and her parents were brother and sister.

Of course you don't worry about "inbreeding" when you believe you're a god. The Greek gods supposedly had boatloads of incestuous offspring but the Greeks themselves always took it as forbidden and destructive.
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Post by Diogenes »

GIThruster wrote:The most famous example was the Ptolemies. Cleopatra married her younger bother and her parents were brother and sister.

Of course you don't worry about "inbreeding" when you believe you're a god. The Greek gods supposedly had boatloads of incestuous offspring but the Greeks themselves always took it as forbidden and destructive.


http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... -king-tut/


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html
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Proposed Army manual tells G.I.s not to insult Taliban, speak up for women


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The draft handbook offers a list of "taboo conversation topics" that soldiers should avoid, including "making derogatory comments about the Taliban," "advocating women's rights," "any criticism of pedophilia," "directing any criticism toward Afghans," "mentioning homosexuality and homosexual conduct" or "anything related to Islam," according to the Journal.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/12/pr ... z2EsspysTz
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Post by choff »

They're not supposed to insult the taliban, so I guess shooting them is out of the question.

With regards to the September posts, back in my younger days I read a book about the Egyptian kings by a guy named Velikovsky. Not much support for anything else he ever wrote, but 'Oedipus and Ahknaton' is definitely entertaining.
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GIThruster wrote:The most famous example was the Ptolemies. Cleopatra married her younger bother and her parents were brother and sister.

Of course you don't worry about "inbreeding" when you believe you're a god. The Greek gods supposedly had boatloads of incestuous offspring but the Greeks themselves always took it as forbidden and destructive.
I thought the inbreeding was the reason why the children behaved badly in Greek mythos, to explain why gods had human failing.

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Post by Diogenes »

Belgium looks at euthanasia for minors, Alzheimer's sufferers

Socialist Senator Philippe Mahoux, who helped draft the proposed changes, said there had been cases of adolescents who "had the capacity to decide" their future.

http://www.france24.com/en/20121218-bel ... -sufferers
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Utahns speak out against decriminalizing polygamy


The group’s push against decriminalizing polygamy in Utah comes during an ongoing court case filed by Kody Brown, from the TLC TV series “Sister Wives.” He and his wives are challenging Utah’s polygamy laws.


http://fox13now.com/2013/02/13/utahns-s ... -polygamy/
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If you truly have religious freedom, or wish to live in religious freedom you must accept religious practices such as polygyny or polyandry.

Hell it is even in the bible via Deuteronomy 25:5–10. So at least 47% of Americans should not have a problem with it.
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Post by Diogenes »

Stubby wrote:If you truly have religious freedom, or wish to live in religious freedom you must accept religious practices such as polygyny or polyandry.

Hell it is even in the bible via Deuteronomy 25:5–10. So at least 47% of Americans should not have a problem with it.

You have put your finger on more evidence that the system was never designed to support the Modern interpretation of "Religious Freedom." It was, in fact, designed to be biased towards various Denominations of Christianity.


Thanks for pointing that out.
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You need to clarify your asinine statement.
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Post by hanelyp »

The examples of polygyny I remember in the Bible were rife with destructive rivalry between the wives and half siblings, or other family disfunction.
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Diogenes
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Post by Diogenes »

Stubby wrote:You need to clarify your asinine statement.

Sorry. I keep making the erroneous assumption that someone who discusses American Politics and History actually KNOWS something about the subject. In this case, I assumed you were familiar with the Historical conflict between Mormons and the rest of the 1800s American Society.

Obviously there was little tolerance for Mormon's religious beliefs in the Early United States. The behavior of Early governmental officials regarding the Mormon church demonstrates what people who were much closer to the founders understood the constitution to mean regarding "religious freedom"


It was a condition of statehood that Mormons had to renounce Polygamy to be admitted into the Union. So much for officially respecting the religious beliefs of other religions.
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