Enter the Dragon, Exit the Eagle

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:13 pm

Richard Clarke: All U.S. Electronics From China Could Be Infected

GAO Buys Fake Submarine Parts From China

kcdodd · Post by **kcdodd** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:42 pm

So, they just went bought weapon parts from random companies on the internet? And you mean they weren't legit? hahaha. Please tell me our government is not this stupid.

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:58 pm

I can't tell you that.

In any event, they intentionally selected Chinese suppliers (sole source?):

Well, as part of the committee’s investigation into the problem, lawmakers asked the Government Accountability Office to buy weapons parts from Chinese companies (that U.S. weapons companies sometimes buy from) to see if the Chinese government is doing anything to crack down on the massive problem.

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:07 pm

With IC transistor counts well over a billion,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trans ... -_2011.svg ,

sorting the "good" chips from the "bad" should be a cinch, with the US having so many more engineers and technicians than China.

Desperately seeking math and science majors

This spring the U.S. will graduate about 8,000 Ph.D. engineers, an estimated two-thirds of whom are not U.S. citizens. About 150,000 students who majored in engineering, computer science, information technology, and math will collect bachelor's degrees. The Chinese government claims that in recent years the number in China has been well north of 500,000 and rising fast; even if overstated, as some believe, the real number is much larger than America's, and the quality of those graduates is improving.

We have trained our conquerors. Now they are able to train themselves.

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:32 pm

Alternate thread title:

Beijing, Serenity Base here. The Dragon has landed.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:23 am

Well stupid you for outsourcing to China! Purely your own fault, absolutely no pitty

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:41 am

Pity.

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:16 am

Skipjack wrote:Well stupid you for outsourcing to China! Purely your own fault, absolutely no pitty ;)

I had nothing to do with it. I would have kept all critical products in-country.

Just plain common sense. But that's been trumped by profits (short term).

I would also charge the perps with treason most foul, if I were King.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:05 pm

I had nothing to do with it. I would have kept all critical products in-country.

Just plain common sense. But that's been trumped by profits (short term).

I would also charge the perps with treason most foul, if I were King.

Sorry, did not mean you personally, mate

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:19 pm

I know, you meant 'you' plurally, collectively.
Specifically, those shadowy figures who decide such things, for the 'good' of the US 'Collective'.

From the comments section of the first link:

1.) Microsoft releases source code to China (2003) http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/pres ... inapr.mspx

2.) Cisco sues Huawei over theft of Intelectual Property (2003) http://news.cnet.com/Cisco-sues-Huawei- ... 81811.html

3.) China scales it's network with Juniper multi tera-Bit router(2006) http://www.juniper.net/us/en/company/pr ... 0216b.html

4.) Dan Geer briefs Microsoft a threat to National Security, then Fired. (2003) http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/ ... ort_firing

5.) Huawei Technologies and Symantec team up to develop computer network security products (2008)

6.) Symantec and Huawei dissolve over Symantec concerns of espionage ( 2011) http://infosecisland.com/blogview/20826 ... nture.html