Gahhh! WTAmerica?

[ladajo]

Please tell me I was not the only person to notice Mayor Micheal Blomberg of New York City wearing a sweater on national live television for New Years Eve with an American Flag consisting of 11 stripes and 23 stars.

Gah!

He should resign.

[Jccarlton]

Please tell me I was not the only person to notice Mayor Micheal Blomberg of New York City wearing a sweater on national live television for New Years Eve with an American Flag consisting of 11 stripes and 23 stars.

Gah!

He should resign.

I can think of all sorts of reasons for Mayor Bloomberg to resign that have nothing to do with what he wears.

[mvanwink5]

Sweater was made in Mexico.

[ladajo]

I was thinking China...

[KitemanSA]

In Mexico by a Chinese company?

[ladajo]

Nice.

[Diogenes]

For years I have long pointed out how ironic it is that Red China has been helping us celebrate our fourth of July. (Chinese Fireworks.)

[GIThruster]

Yeah well, I think most of the fireworks we use at celebrations like the 4th, are made here in the USA.

China doesn't get credit for what we do many centuries after the fact, IMHO.

Fact is, the Chinese didn't even understand how their fireworks invention could be used in battle. Their rockets were essentially useless. Firearms were augmented and refined in the West. The Chinese were clueless about this.

[krenshala]

Yeah well, I think most of the fireworks we use at celebrations like the 4th, are made here in the USA.

China doesn't get credit for what we do many centuries after the fact, IMHO.

Fact is, the Chinese didn't even understand how their fireworks invention could be used in battle. Their rockets were essentially useless. Firearms were augmented and refined in the West. The Chinese were clueless about this.

Most of the fireworks I see lately appear to be made in Mexico (of course, I'm in Texas ...).

[D Tibbets]

Yeah well, I think most of the fireworks we use at celebrations like the 4th, are made here in the USA.

China doesn't get credit for what we do many centuries after the fact, IMHO.

Fact is, the Chinese didn't even understand how their fireworks invention could be used in battle. Their rockets were essentially useless. Firearms were augmented and refined in the West. The Chinese were clueless about this.

I think you are misinformed. I suspect well over 90% of the fireworks come from China. This ratio may be different if you are only talking about large fireworks like those used for big firework displays.

And I believe cannos were first used in China.

http://www.google.com/search?q=gunpowde ... 24&bih=625


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cannon

Dan Tibbets

[GIThruster]

Might be true, Dan, but all my years growing up in the East say that there is plenty of fireworks production in the esteemed Southern States.

Can't much say how we "Yankees" depend upon our Southern cousins for personal expressions of fire in the sky, but just saying-- we Easterners know, our Southern cousins have our best interests at heart.

[ladajo]

The history of weaponizing all sorts of pyrotechnics is a long and debated one. I think on the topic one of my previous favorites was a chinese design rocket torpedo thingy. Have to find a link for it. But of course in the Med you had all sorts of fun explody thingys used by many a city state and "kingdom". I think the martial idea of exsplosive fire is an old old. Even the romans used fire and gases in inventive ways, as did their forbearors.

[KitemanSA]

All hail Greek Fire, whatever the heck it was!

[GIThruster]

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washin ... e-in-china

[GIThruster]

Firearms were augmented and refined in the West. The Chinese were clueless about this.

And I believe cannons were first used in China.

Agreed. The augmentations I was referencing were things like the Matchlock, Wheellock, Snaplock, Flintlock, Percussion lock, paper cartridges, cased ammo, repeating weapons such as the revolver, automatics, and most recently--caseless ammo, all from the West.