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Teahive
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Post by Teahive »

Diogenes wrote:Were the numbers not so overwhelming, you might have an argument, but as homosexual molestation of males is far larger than even the most generous estimation on the percentage of the homosexual population at large, it renders any other explanation unlikely.
Correlation alone can never prove causation, no matter the numbers.
Diogenes wrote:Everyone prefers to ignore their own inconsistencies. You are against slavery (presumably) but support abortion, not realizing the two issues share the exact same moral foundation.
They don't. You seem to believe in some kind of absolute morality. But there can be no such thing. Morality only exists within the context of a society.

An absolute morality would require an absolute, objective categorisation of the physical world. But categorisations exist only in the mind.

If we don't use the same fundamental concepts, there's no point arguing. So I'll simply stop here.

Diogenes
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Post by Diogenes »

Teahive wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Were the numbers not so overwhelming, you might have an argument, but as homosexual molestation of males is far larger than even the most generous estimation on the percentage of the homosexual population at large, it renders any other explanation unlikely.
Correlation alone can never prove causation, no matter the numbers.

And a mantra, no matter how often repeated, will not make something true.
Teahive wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Everyone prefers to ignore their own inconsistencies. You are against slavery (presumably) but support abortion, not realizing the two issues share the exact same moral foundation.
They don't. You seem to believe in some kind of absolute morality. But there can be no such thing. Morality only exists within the context of a society.

Au contraire, mon frère, morality is a manifestation of evolution and natural selection, it exists in any domain on which evolution operates.
Teahive wrote: An absolute morality would require an absolute, objective categorisation of the physical world. But categorisations exist only in the mind.

Yes, boundaries are illusionary perception based constructions, such as the belief that nature and morality are distinctly different.

Teahive wrote: If we don't use the same fundamental concepts, there's no point arguing. So I'll simply stop here.


One would think that had you stopped before you started it might have spared us all the annoyance of having to read your opinion. Better late than never.
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“Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, Liberals and Serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, Whigs and Tories, Republicans and Federalists, Aristocrats and Democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object. The last one of Aristocrats and Democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all.”

– Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Henry Lee, 1824)
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Now they are known by "the donkephants (elephasses?), and the Libertarians! :D

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KitemanSA wrote:Now they are known by "the donkephants (elephasses?), and the Libertarians! :D
The names have changed - the truth remains the same.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

Diogenes
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Post by Diogenes »

Some pushback on the normalization of aberrant behavior.


The Torah Declaration is a public statement signed by 158
Rabbis, Community Leaders, and Mental Health Professionals

A propaganda blitz has been sweeping the world using political tactics to persuade the public about the legitimacy of homosexuality. The media is rife with negative labels implying that one is “hateful” or “homophobic” if they do not accept the homosexual lifestyle as legitimate. This political coercion has silenced many into acquiescence. Unfortunately this attitude has seeped into the Torah community and many have become confused or have accepted the media’s portrayal of this issue.


The Torah’s Unequivocal And Eternal Message

The Torah makes a clear statement that homosexuality is not an acceptable lifestyle or a genuine identity by severely prohibiting its conduct. Furthermore, the Torah, ever prescient about negative secular influences, warns us in Vayikra (Leviticus) 20:23 “Do not follow the traditions of the nations that I expel from before you…” Particularly the Torah writes this in regards to homosexuality and other forbidden sexual liaisons.

http://www.torahdec.org/Default.aspx
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California Public School Kids Now Required to Study Contributions of Lebian\Gay\Bixesual\TransGender Americans


(CNSNews.com) – On Jan. 1, the California Department of Education started implementing a new law that requires all children in the state’s public schools to study the “role and contributions” of “lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans” to the “development of California and the United States of America.”

What, no necrophiles, pederasts or beastophiles? That's Discrimination!


D@mn Communist brainwashing.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/califor ... -americans
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Diogenes
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I'm Saving to Buy a Penis

The doctor I want to use is in Belgrade. It's going to be a little cheaper there. Probably $25,000, maybe $45,000, I really don't know."



http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news ... s-20120105
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Skipjack
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Post by Skipjack »

Funny, both Diogenes and Msimon keep posting about the same topics over and over again. Also funny, less and less people here seem to care about their rants.
Slight case of overbombing?

Diogenes
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Skipjack wrote:Funny, both Diogenes and Msimon keep posting about the same topics over and over again. Also funny, less and less people here seem to care about their rants.
Slight case of overbombing?

You have been here long enough to know I have several "topics" of discussion. My methodology is pretty consistent. When a piece of news comes to my attention that fits in one of my categories, I post it. If you have simply forgotten, I will mention a few of my OTHER topics.


Second Worst President in History. (About all the Idiocy and disaster that is/was Jimmy Carter.)

Persia Delenda est. (About why the current government in Iran needs to be destroyed. Also related to Why Jimmy Carter is/was an idiot.)

Skynet is Comming. (About how technological advances in Robotics and insurrection supression will eventually give our rulers the ability to utterly subjugate and control us. )

Communism is Aristocracy by another name. (About how there is very little difference between communism and monarchy in actual practice. i.e. the communists are lying bastards who just want to rule over us as the new Aristocracy.)

Liberal Media Greater threat than terrorism. ( Demonstrations that news and entertainment is utilized as political propaganda as a result of total one party control of access to all broadcast information and media.)

We are Doomed! DOOOOOMMED I say! (A very hard look at how liberalism/socialism has brought us to the brink of ruin, and has virtually guaranteed a bloody meltdown of our financial system.)

Why you shouldn't "self-Medicate." (A thread meant to demonstrate how tampering with your brain's biochemistry makes people do stupid things.)

A picture is worth a thousand words. ( A thread which demonstrates that all is not necessarily as it seems with the origins of our Retard "precedent." )

Rise of the Machines. ( Is an earlier version of "Skynet is coming.")

Taking Gold away from the people. (Is a thread about how Roosevelts confiscation of Gold was the first embodiment of Massive Governmental theft of other people's property. )

Libertarian pushing morality? (A Thread about the Hypocrisy of Libertariansim.)

Go Navy! (A thread about Progress in the Navy's efforts to develop high tech for war fighting.)

Adult Stem Cells vs Embryonic Stem Cells. (A thread which demonstrates how false were all the claims for fetal stem cells and how Adult Stem cells appears to be the way forward. )

Reason vs. Emotion.( A thread which attempts to demonstrate how people are more easily swayed by emotion than by logic or reasoning. (Something which I find truer and truer as time goes on.) )

A particle so evil that it's very existence threatens mankind! (A humorous thread regarding the Higg's Boson. )

Using drugs makes you stupid. (Self Explanatory.)

We have always been at war with Oceana!( A thread discussing the Orwellian similarity of Liberal ran government.)

And various sundry topics of lesser interest.


As for your opinion of my various attempts to impart knowledge to you and others I can only say this.


"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. "
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Diogenes
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Furor in Greece over pedophilia as a disability




ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greek disability groups expressed anger Monday at a government decision to expand a list of state-recognized disability categories to include pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs.

The National Confederation of Disabled People called the action "incomprehensible," and said pedophiles are now awarded a higher government disability pay than some people who have received organ transplants.

http://news.yahoo.com/furor-greece-over ... 02476.html



Every day we are trying to become more like Greece. It won't be long before we follow them in this as well.
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Diogenes
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Ventura Girl Scout, 14, Calls For Cookie Boycott Over ‘Radical Homosexual Agenda’

The girl — who has only been identified as 14-year-old “Taylor” — cited the recent decision by Girl Scout officials to allow a 7-year-old “transgender” boy to join a Colorado-based troop last fall.

In a video that first appeared Wednesday, Taylor linked proceeds from cookie sales “to push a radical homosexual agenda at the expense of the Scouts’ safety.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/01/ ... al-agenda/
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Diogenes
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First LGBT awareness license plate to go on sale in Indiana


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The first license plate in the country to feature the logo of a lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender organization goes on sale next month in Indiana.

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-lgbt-lic ... 174.column

From an Illegal Felony to a protected class in just 50 years. This will not stop until collapse occurs.
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Post by Diogenes »

Toddler's cuss word on 'Modern Family' draws ire


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The tot is played by Aubrey Anderson-Emmons, who says the word "fudge" during taping. It will be bleeped on the air and her mouth will be obscured by pixilation, and viewers will get the impression that her character used the actual F-word.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/toddlers-cuss- ... 07751.html


Isn't it cute that children are saying simulated cuss words on television? Maybe in a few years they'll be able to say the real cuss words on television. They already do it in the movies.
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Diogenes
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Post by Diogenes »

You guys thought I was joking. Here I am being proven right once again.


The Sexual Revolution and Children


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The Possibility of Sex with Children

In the debate on sexual abuse, one of the elements is confusion as to where the line should be drawn in interactions with children. It is a confusion not limited to the Catholic Church. Indeed, it was precisely in so-called progressive circles that an eroticization of childhood and a gradual lowering of taboos began. It was a shift that even allowed for the possibility of sex with children.

The Greens were not long immune to the argument that the government should not limit the sexuality of children. At its convention in Lüdenscheid in 1985, the Greens' state organization in the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia argued that "nonviolent sexuality" between children and adults should generally be allowed, without any age restrictions. "Consensual sexual relations between adults and children must be decriminalized," the "Children and Youth" task force of the Green Party in the southwestern state of Baden-Württemberg wrote in a position paper at about the same time. Public protests forced the party to remove the statement from the document.

During this time, no other newspaper offered pedophiles quite as much a forum as the alternative, left-leaning Tageszeitung, which shows how socially acceptable this violation of taboos had become in the leftist community. In several series, including one titled "I Love Boys," and in lengthy interviews, men were given the opportunity to describe how beautiful and liberating sex with preadolescent boys supposedly was. "

And it's from Der Speigel, which ought to give it some credibility. It's most definitely not from a right-wing source.


http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 79,00.html
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