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Diogenes
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Aslan wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Diogenes; the most of Talk-polywell members are opposed to my all comments. You did not disagree with some of my comments. Thank you.

Somtimes there are "All" against one..............

I really don't like it when a lot of people gang up on an individual. It happens to me far too often, but then of course, I rather enjoy it! :)


Empathy and Objectivity are good traits. May we all use them more.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
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Diogenes
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ladajo wrote:
D,
Take it or leave it but from personal experience in early 2003, I believe this to be true. My source was senior French military.

Perhaps I joke too much. We would not now be a nation but for the contribution of the French.
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ladajo
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Aslan wrote:
ladajo wrote:Have you read this?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/16/world ... =obnetwork

What do you think?

Some analysts think that the Revolutionary Guard are turning your country into a military dictatorship, or already have. What do you think?
Are you aware of what they control in your country?
This is only a theory. According to this theory, perhaps president should be elected with votes of parliament. Somthing Like America.
It is a bit different here. Do you know about the "Electoral College"? They are the ones who elect our President. Understanding how the members of the "Electoral College" get selected is interesting and varied from state to state. Our Senate and House of Representatives have no play in electing the President.

Please tell me what you think about the second question regarding the Revolutionary Guard and what it controls in your country?

Giorgio
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Post by Giorgio »

Aslan wrote:Giargio, All of these links are supported by western governement.
Also, I did not see prejudices there, except than lies.
No really, I think you didn't even look at those websites....
The Isna.com (Iranian Students News Agency) is a government paid agency, the asriran.com website was financed by the major of Tehran, Mohammad-Bagher Qalibaf, and so on.
In other words, these are IRANIAN supported websites.

It looks to me like you want to keep yourself totally blind in respect to the sad issues that are going on in your country.
Is always better to blame the others than to look into your mistakes.....

Aslan
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Diogenes wrote:Empathy and Objectivity are good traits. May we all use them more.
Yours Truely........................ :oops:

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Aslan wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Empathy and Objectivity are good traits. May we all use them more.
Yours Truely........................ :oops:
Who would have thought that *I* would come across as the reasonable one? :)


To your Health Aslan! May you prosper and be merry!
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Post by Giorgio »

Diogenes wrote:
Aslan wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Diogenes; the most of Talk-polywell members are opposed to my all comments. You did not disagree with some of my comments. Thank you.

Somtimes there are "All" against one..............

I really don't like it when a lot of people gang up on an individual. It happens to me far too often, but then of course, I rather enjoy it! :)


Empathy and Objectivity are good traits. May we all use them more.
Sometimes too much Empathy and Objectivity do not make us realize that from the other part there is no willingness to be objective nor emphatic of our feelings.
Careful Diogenes, you are on a very slippery ground here.....

Aslan
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Post by Aslan »

Giorgio wrote:
Aslan wrote:Giargio, All of these links are supported by western governement.
Also, I did not see prejudices there, except than lies.
No really, I think you didn't even look at those websites....
The Isna.com (Iranian Students News Agency) is a government paid agency, the asriran.com website was financed by the major of Tehran, Mohammad-Bagher Qalibaf, and so on.
In other words, these are IRANIAN supported websites.

It looks to me like you want to keep yourself totally blind in respect to the sad issues that are going on in your country.
Is always better to blame the others than to look into your mistakes.....
We was discussing, in connection with the prejudice and preemptive attacks. These links were not relevant.

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Post by ladajo »

Young Lion,
The links are very relevant to you. You should read them if you have not.

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Diogenes wrote:
GIThruster wrote:
Diogenes wrote: A quibble. Lack of an official name did not make the group nonexistent. The US Funded the mujaheddin in Afghanistan, and some of them eventually combined with others to form what later became Al Qaeda. I have little doubt that some of our funding went to what eventually became Al Quaeda. Bin Laden himself fought with the mujaheddin.
Its not a quibble. The Mujaheddin were not a political force, nor political reformers like the Taliban. They did not tear down ancient statues and throw people into Shira bondage like the Taliban. The Mujaheddin were sympathetic with those handing them Stinger missiles to defend their homeland, and they certainly were not attacking non-militant targets nor anyone outside Afghanistan. The fact that some of these freedom fighters went on to attack non-combatants, outside their national boundaries, for religious reasons is entirely the result of Osama Bin Laden's ministrations.

It's anything but a quibble. The US did not put weapons in the hands of terrorists. They put them in the hands of freedom fighters, some of whom more than a decade later became terrorists. We do not however, have any incidents of Taliban nor Al Qaeda using Stinger missiles. The Afghans had apparently used them up before the end of their war with the USSR. This in complete contrast to the US having armed the Libyans and had them walk off with the weapons, and had them show up in weapons bizarres in Africa well before the revolution was over.
They put them in the hands of temporary allies for a common purpose but after which said weapons and assets eventually made their way into the hands of people who became our enemies. The difference between them and the Libyans is that the Libyans just did it faster.
The US's support of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan was almost exclusively in supply of shoulder mounted anti-aircraft Stinger missiles. Since neither the Taliban nor Al Qaeda have ever used a Stinger missile, there is precisely NO EVIDENCE for your absurd position. Likewise, you're demonstrating a complete lack of comprehension, of how Bin Laden changed the lay of the land by prosthelytizing the Afghans, whom were not before that time a threat to those outside their lands.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis

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Post by Giorgio »

Aslan wrote:
ladajo wrote:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ISNA is one of best our news agencies.
I was wrong.
So I ask you again, isn't prejudice what your leaders are applying toward their very own people?

Aslan
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Post by Aslan »

ladajo wrote:Young Lion,
The links are very relevant to you. You should read them if you have not.
In every country there are oppositions. In Iran, opponents are less than 20 percent. Police control them.
For example, the mobile content in ISNA, has no relevance to the topic discussed.
You can read it again. Please tell me about that and its connection to Prejudice and preemptive attacks.

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Post by Skipjack »

Aslan, stop reading these websites and watching this tv- station!
Please, do yourself a favor and dont believe anything these places are reporting. Always cross check with other news outlets. There are so many in English out there.

Aslan
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Post by Aslan »

Skipjack wrote:Aslan, stop reading these websites and watching this tv- station!
Please, do yourself a favor and dont believe anything these places are reporting. Always cross check with other news outlets. There are so many in English out there.
This news is hard to believe for you. Probably first encountered becomes, but unfortunately, these are facts.

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