A picture is worth a thousand words.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Thu May 19, 2011 9:35 pm

bcglorf wrote:You can dismiss those pictures if you like, but they are far more consistent with the story of Obama which has been uncovered than is that "anchor baby" birth certificate, of which we may never see the original.

And this is your insanity in a nutshell.

You don't accept a certified copy of birth certificate attested to by the only relevant, available and existent authority for issuing same, BECAUSE it is inconsistent with The story of Obama which you have uncovered.

Why should I believe ANYTHING that comes from this group? They make every effort to conceal, and we already know their ringleader is a habitual liar.

This was the original COLB released by "Fightthesmears.com" an "Official" Obama "smear" debunking website. This image is from there.

What possible reason could they have had for covering up the Certificate number? WHY would they conceal this if they have nothing to hide? The only reason is an inherent tendency to cover up and deceive.

bcglorf wrote: You do accept as accurate naked pictures resembling Obama's mother as proof that his real father is NOT the one that would appear on his real birth certificate, which you don't believe you have seen, and all this BECAUSE it is consistent with The story of Obama which you have uncovered.

You can argue that there are two women who look exactly alike and both have a crooked tooth in the exact same spot if you want. Probability would require there to be only one such woman. The pictures fit the known facts better than the assertions on his birth certificate. The timeline fits, the clues in the picture fit (Age appears right, Timeline appears right, Open window in December? Tan Lines? Jazz Records? Davis was a Photographer of Nudes? Crooked tooth the same? etc.)

I didn't uncover the story of Obama's life. Many people did a lot of work to find out what could be discovered about his origins and upbringing. They back up their findings with Documents from multiple sources and they all jive with each other. That's a pretty good test of accuracy. The ability of multiple sources to agree on something yields a high probability of it being true.

bcglorf wrote: Google confirmation bias, it has you by the throat in the deepest possible way.

As you like. Though If I discover information that doesn't fit my probable scenario, I will of course let everyone know about it. I believe in Falsifiability.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Thu May 19, 2011 10:41 pm

mvanwink5 wrote:Roll around with the dogs and don't be surprised if flees hitch a ride, and Obama has made a life long habit of rolling around with special friends. In a common way, he still does. I particularly liked the Bill Ayers birth certificate angle; it made me want to shower just thinking about Obama and the people he rolled with.

Gas prices as we all know are tied to the Fed, and the Fed is now monetizing Obama's instigated massive US debt increase, which I find hard to differentiate from that characterizing the world's piigs. Socialist dogs really all do the same everywhere, make noise, make street garbage, make crime, make war, and make people poor.

Birth certificate, oil prices, same flee vector, different resulting disease.

Speaking of dogs and fleas, check this out. (This guy does EXCELLENT work.)

http://zombietime.com/obama_and_the_wea ... derground/

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Thu May 19, 2011 11:24 pm

HA! Obama's supposed relative (Sekou Odinga)was involved in the New York Brinks Robbery in 1981. (As was the Weather Underground.)

After the vehicle crashed, the two occupants engaged the police in a gunfight that left Smith dead and Odinga captured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brink%27s_ ... %281981%29

He's still in prison and refers to himself as a "Political Prisoner."
http://www.sekouodinga.com/whoIsSekou.html

Linked to Weather Underground.

WUO formed an alliance with the Black Liberation Army and called this alliance the May 19 Communist Organization. On October 20, 1981 in Nanuet, New York, the group robbed a Brinks armored truck containing $1.6 million. The robbery was violent, resulting in the murders of two police officers and a security guard.[15] Boudin, Clark, and Gilbert were found guilty and sentenced to lengthy terms in prison. A number of media reports listed them as active Weatherman Underground members[112] considered the “last gasps” of the Weather Underground.[113] The documentary The Weather Underground described the Brinks Robbery as the "unofficial end" of the Weather Underground.[114]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman ... ization%29

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun May 22, 2011 9:08 pm

No white areas around the writing on these scanned documents except for the one in the middle.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Sun May 22, 2011 10:53 pm

I think it may be an artifact of overlaying on the security background. The other documents are clean scans. I believe the state is electornically adding the security background, not just printing out on said paper.
Hard to tell. But honestly, I do buy the Honolulu birth. The dad part remains a little suspect for me. Either way, I think that he meets the natural birth catagory with one parent and sufficient residential time in the US as I have said before.

The dad part is intriguing.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:02 am

ladajo wrote:I think it may be an artifact of overlaying on the security background. The other documents are clean scans. I believe the state is electornically adding the security background, not just printing out on said paper.

Except that contradicts what the Hawaiian Bureaucrats SAID they did. They SAID they printed it on that anti-copy paper.

ladajo wrote: Hard to tell. But honestly, I do buy the Honolulu birth. The dad part remains a little suspect for me. Either way, I think that he meets the natural birth catagory with one parent and sufficient residential time in the US as I have said before.

The dad part is intriguing.

The Doctor's signature seems to indicate that he must have been born in Hawaii. I have not conceived of a likely manner in which they could attest to such a thing if it were not true. Amending birth certificates can legally go only so far and no further.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:50 am

Right, but to lift it off the scanned original would require the outline artifacts you have noticed. I see no other way to separate the text layer from the original "not clear white" background.

I am ok with that.

Maybe all it requires is an explanantion how they produce scanned copies of old ledger files.

But either way, I am fairly well convinced he was born in HI. The questions regarding parentage linger however. And for sure, he had an "odd" upbringing, and formative years. I still have seen no logical reason why or how he ended up with a CT social security number either.

I guess we all have our demons in one fashion or another. Look what Arnold sowed himself.

mvanwink5 · Post by **mvanwink5** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:20 pm

Diogenes wrote: Speaking of dogs and fleas, check this out. (This guy does EXCELLENT work.)

http://zombietime.com/obama_and_the_wea ... derground/

Very interesting, BHO is lower than J. Carter, in my eyes even without BHO's dubious past. The tag alongs BHO brought with him to the presidency left no doubt of his sentiments. Pretty ugly all around. I am fighting hard against a full fledged stage 4 rant here.

We really need a good replacement, what do you think about Herman Cain?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:31 pm

mvanwink5 wrote:
Diogenes wrote: Speaking of dogs and fleas, check this out. (This guy does EXCELLENT work.)

http://zombietime.com/obama_and_the_wea ... derground/
Very interesting, BHO is lower than J. Carter, in my eyes even without BHO's dubious past. The tag alongs BHO brought with him to the presidency left no doubt of his sentiments. Pretty ugly all around. I am fighting hard against a full fledged stage 4 rant here.

We really need a good replacement, what do you think about Herman Cain?

At the moment, he's my number one choice. I see no better candidate out there. Except for him, the current field of Republicans make me disgusted. Regarding Cain, I am reminded of what Lincoln said of Grant.

"I can't spare this man, he fights."

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:31 pm

ladajo wrote:Right, but to lift it off the scanned original would require the outline artifacts you have noticed. I see no other way to separate the text layer from the original "not clear white" background.

I do not know to what you are referring. The pixel data of an image of ink is completely different from that of paper. It can easily be extracted complete without the slightest bit of white in it. You are effectively arguing that a computer cannot distinguish the pixel data difference between black ink and white paper.

For a legitimate copy of an image onto a green hash background, there would be no white in the text whatsoever.

ladajo wrote: I am ok with that.

Maybe all it requires is an explanantion how they produce scanned copies of old ledger files.

A technical glitch no doubt. People just can't get anything right for this President.

ladajo wrote: But either way, I am fairly well convinced he was born in HI. The questions regarding parentage linger however. And for sure, he had an "odd" upbringing, and formative years. I still have seen no logical reason why or how he ended up with a CT social security number either.

With the degree of Foreign upbringing Barry has had, the founders would have rebuked him just on that basis. With a Foreign born father, he would not have even been allowed to try a run. Even WITH an American father, he only meets the technical requirements for "Natural Born Citizen", he violates the h3ll out of the spirit of Article II.

ladajo wrote: I guess we all have our demons in one fashion or another. Look what Arnold sowed himself.

From an Evolutionary perspective, Arnold has done better than most. From a Social perspective, he may have stepped in it, but I'm not going to feel sorry for him.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:35 pm

Speaking of an evolutionary perspective:

Abortion is mostly leftists killing their own. For which, according to believers, they will go to hell. What is the downside?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:49 pm

MSimon wrote:Speaking of an evolutionary perspective:

Abortion is mostly leftists killing their own. For which, according to believers, they will go to hell. What is the downside?

I've made this point often. The Abortion supporters are facing a losing proposition demographically. Their numbers will dwindle while that of their opponents will continue to increase.

From a strictly pragmatic perspective, having your opponents kill their own children is a good thing. But so is enslaving other people to do your bidding. It's all a question of what your philosophical boundaries are, and how much you believe in the "Everyone is equal" thing.

If one human life is the equal of another, then killing or enslaving a human life is objectionable. If they are not equal, why should anyone care about what happens to the less equal "other" ?

I personally think humanity benefits overall by protecting the rights of the weak. We may all eventually find ourselves helpless at some point.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:17 pm

Diogenes,

Depends on whether you think we are at war with the left or not. I'm at the war stage myself. Our first goal is to save the Republic. If it means letting the left kill their own I'm for it.

What about all the unborn Germans who died 1940 to 1945? Good idea IMO.

In war certain notions of morality are held in abeyance. We murder the innocent in war to get at the guilty. In this case the guilty are killing their own. Good.

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:31 pm

D,

You are too soft hearted to be an officer. Honorable to be sure. You don't win wars that way though.

Back in 2003 an ex-SF guy and I did a lot of corresponding. He thought my attitude - similar to his with a bit of refinement - would make me an excellent officer for his kind. Unfortunately even in my prime I don't think I could have passed the "physical".

Funny thing though. When among ordinary service people I get the same look as I give SFs guys when I tell the ordinary service people I'm a nuke. Wide eyed admiration. I guess that makes nukes the SFs of brains. Funny that. Of course I give them the same look back the SFs guys give me. "I'm nothing special" just lucky.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Tue May 24, 2011 5:57 pm

MSimon wrote:Diogenes,

Depends on whether you think we are at war with the left or not. I'm at the war stage myself. Our first goal is to save the Republic. If it means letting the left kill their own I'm for it.

What about all the unborn Germans who died 1940 to 1945? Good idea IMO.

In war certain notions of morality are held in abeyance. We murder the innocent in war to get at the guilty. In this case the guilty are killing their own. Good.

It is a very pragmatic approach. At this point I'm not sure we can afford any other.