It takes ten thousand hours working to turn an engineering graduate into an engineer. Those are the most important hours of an engineer's trade. That is when they learn their trade. lose those hours and we all lose.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/ ... _engi.html
It also takes a sense of general competance and self reliance.:
http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2011/02/blog-post.html
With the people in charge we have now we are losing both to indoctrination and soft living.
Hollowing Out Engineering and Technology
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If it takes three years AFTER college to get a true engineer, wouldn't the best road then be to spend just a year or two getting basic math and such, and covering the rest in night school as you work at a real/entry "engineering" job? Makes finishing a BS sound like just that, BS.
Evil is evil, no matter how small
Same in Canada, liberal arts and law degree's are top ticket, commerce degree's #2 except for medical specialist degrees, science and engineering on the bottom.
We're told the natural unemployment rate is 8%, any lower we'll have inflation, in '64 it was about 4%. We're also told if we don't have high immigration levels our standard of living will suffer, real wages have been flat for 30 years, but without more immigrants it would apparently be much worse. They encourage people with science degrees to come here, there's a crying need and all, but then they get stuck driving taxi's.
We're told we need immigrants because of the declining birth rate, it would never occur to these great minds that the reason people aren't having children is because they can't afford them, because wages have remained flat, because immigration keeps unemployment up and wages low. I'll probably be denounced by some liberal types as a racist for these comments.
Today I found out a guy I know with a liberal arts degree, who used to have thousands of people under him, is afraid to keep fridge magnets, because he read an email that they can poison food in the freezer.
We're told the natural unemployment rate is 8%, any lower we'll have inflation, in '64 it was about 4%. We're also told if we don't have high immigration levels our standard of living will suffer, real wages have been flat for 30 years, but without more immigrants it would apparently be much worse. They encourage people with science degrees to come here, there's a crying need and all, but then they get stuck driving taxi's.
We're told we need immigrants because of the declining birth rate, it would never occur to these great minds that the reason people aren't having children is because they can't afford them, because wages have remained flat, because immigration keeps unemployment up and wages low. I'll probably be denounced by some liberal types as a racist for these comments.
Today I found out a guy I know with a liberal arts degree, who used to have thousands of people under him, is afraid to keep fridge magnets, because he read an email that they can poison food in the freezer.
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That is more or less what I did. Except I skipped the college.kunkmiester wrote:If it takes three years AFTER college to get a true engineer, wouldn't the best road then be to spend just a year or two getting basic math and such, and covering the rest in night school as you work at a real/entry "engineering" job? Makes finishing a BS sound like just that, BS.
The Japanese believe you have to spend a year on the bench as a technician to make a good engineer. I agree. But it is more like 10 years.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
An engineer-friend of mine had to have his spleen out a few months ago. It was a strange set of symptoms, but the guy was getting thinner and thinner.
They hollowed his spleen out of him, they stapled it closed with big metal staples, and his appetite returned almost instantly. We were all very happy because something malignant was caught in time.
I think we can stick to talking about malignancies that need taking out, now, in this thread?
Jccarlton, please use meaningful titles, else I will add posts to the ones I don't understand the title of if I click on it thinking the title is about something else.
They hollowed his spleen out of him, they stapled it closed with big metal staples, and his appetite returned almost instantly. We were all very happy because something malignant was caught in time.
I think we can stick to talking about malignancies that need taking out, now, in this thread?
Jccarlton, please use meaningful titles, else I will add posts to the ones I don't understand the title of if I click on it thinking the title is about something else.
The problem is the management talent pool is being drawn from is the same one that educates our political class, the Ivy Covered Snob Factories, with the same results. Is a Harvard MBA worth more than real experience? Is it worth 200k and a fast track to the top? Real life is demonstrating all too well that it isn't.DeltaV wrote:Excellent articles. Thanks for posting. From personal experience, management at American high tech companies has gone insane.
Somehow I think that you are really reaching when you say that the title of the link that I posted is somehow not descriptive of a discussion of that link.chrismb wrote:An engineer-friend of mine had to have his spleen out a few months ago. It was a strange set of symptoms, but the guy was getting thinner and thinner.
They hollowed his spleen out of him, they stapled it closed with big metal staples, and his appetite returned almost instantly. We were all very happy because something malignant was caught in time.
I think we can stick to talking about malignancies that need taking out, now, in this thread?
Jccarlton, please use meaningful titles, else I will add posts to the ones I don't understand the title of if I click on it thinking the title is about something else.
Did they use Us Surgical Staples? I had an engineer who used to work there when they were right around the corner from me and he used to tell the most entertaining stories.