New glass, ductile and stronger than steel

Point out news stories, on the net or in mainstream media, related to polywell fusion.

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choff wrote:To the layman, if you can see through it, it's glass or transparent plastic.
Who said anything about transparent? There are silicate glasses (obsidian, e.g.) that are not transparent but certianly glass. This appears to be an improved amorphus metal.

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kunkmiester wrote:We already have transparent aluminum too. Not sure it's one of these funky materials, but I remember reading about it a few years back.
No. We've create transparent ALUMINA - a ceramic.
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icarus wrote:
I think it is funny the research you choose to dismiss, considering the research you defend.
Quite, it may be the difference of perspective between a lowly "technician" sweating on the front-line of cutting edge research and a mere parasitical broker of "technologies", real or imagined. Ductile glass is ho-hum "schtick" out of Caltech and warp drive research is all-there but for some much needed funding pies to stick fingers thumbs into ...

Delusions of grandeur must do odd things to a person's logical thought processes.
Oh I didn't say that the liquid metal or glass is ho-hum. I've been in contact with the folks at Liquidmetal several times looking at new applications. What I said was that you don't understand what is new about the stuff in this thread. Amorphous metals are surely not new. They are indeed glasses. They are freeze formed so quickly that they do not have a metallic lattice, despite they are made of metal. They do not conduct electricity and they have been in the marketplace for years, most notably in the skis made by HEAD.

The headliner for the article that started this thread was about glass that is stronger than steel. What I'm saying is, this is more than a decade old--it is not, as the article suggests "news".

http://www.liquidmetal.com/applications ... orting.asp

If you need to pick a fight with someone, icarus; at least have the courtesy to avoid misrepresenting that person. Honestly, trolls like you will always find something to whine and complain about. You don't need to make stuff up.
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Giorgio wrote:
GIThruster wrote:Only real difference I can see is the new stuff is ductile whereas the stuff in consumption is injection molded and not marketed as "ductile".
Right... what diference can this make?
Kinda like when in 1400 they discovered that Iron could be transformed in ductile Steel. Old news also that one and it really didn't make any difference in the end, didn't it? :roll:
The article suggests that the "news" is the use of Palladium. Hard to know what is new given the writer did not know the state of this technology. What it wrongly states is that amorphous alloys are new. They're not. It is this one particular alloy that appears to be new. Now you're right, Giorgio; it may well be this particular alloy is head over heels above and beyond all the other cryogenically injection molded liquid metals. What is not new, is glass that is stronger than steel. That's been around for more than a decade, and is already in the marketplace. Fact is, I saw an interview with the owner of HEAD on NASA TV a couple years ago, and he was holding a pair of skis with this amorphous metal in them.

According to HEAD, because these flash frozen metals do not have a metallic lattice, they cannot suffer metal fatigue over time, so their new skis never wear out.

At least, that's the claim.

Point is, the thing that makes this a glass is not silicon. It's the flash freezing injection molding process that cools the alloy so quickly, it cannot form a metallic lattice. This process is not new in any sense, nor is the existence of glass that is stronger than steel. it appears what is new, is one particular alloy including Palladium.
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If you need to pick a fight with someone, icarus;
Hey, you vowed never to address me again, what's up with that?

I'm not picking a fight, I'm merely treating you with the contempt you richly deserve ... do I need to re-post your previous vulgar outbursts .... trolling eh? you would know.

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Shouldn't this thread go in "General" ?

Just sayin

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You have started many threads not related to fusion in the news forum as well so I'd say no, unless you wish to move all of your threads too. Plus it's not political rantings, so it would just seem out of place there.
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GIThruster wrote: Point is, the thing that makes this a glass is not silicon. It's the flash freezing injection molding process that cools the alloy so quickly, it cannot form a metallic lattice.
I am aware of that and object to this widely used malapropism (ok, I think it a malapropism). The lack of a lattice doesn't make it a glass but an amorphos metal, IMHO.

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Diogenes wrote:Shouldn't this thread go in "General" ?

Just sayin
Not yet. The discussion does still relate to the original topic of a "technical news article". If it wanders from this topic, then yes. IMHO.

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Diogenes wrote:Shouldn't this thread go in "General" ?

Just sayin
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MSimon wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Shouldn't this thread go in "General" ?
Just sayin
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KitemanSA wrote:
GIThruster wrote: Point is, the thing that makes this a glass is not silicon. It's the flash freezing injection molding process that cools the alloy so quickly, it cannot form a metallic lattice.
I am aware of that and object to this widely used malapropism (ok, I think it a malapropism). The lack of a lattice doesn't make it a glass but an amorphos metal, IMHO.
"Glass is an amorphous (non-crystalline) solid material. . .

In science, however, the term glass is usually defined in a much wider sense, including every solid that possesses a non-crystalline (i.e. amorphous) structure and that exhibits a glass transition when heated towards the liquid state. In this wider sense, glasses can be made of quite different classes of materials: metallic alloys, ionic melts, aqueous solutions, molecular liquids, and polymers. For many applications (bottles, eyewear) polymer glasses (acrylic glass, polyethylene terephthalate) are a lighter alternative to traditional silica glasses."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass
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Also look up "glass transition temperature".
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kunkmiester wrote:We already have transparent aluminum too. Not sure it's one of these funky materials, but I remember reading about it a few years back.
Yeah, isnt transparent aluminum called ruby or emerald? The trick of course is in manufacturing it in bulk.

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KitemanSA wrote:
MSimon wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Shouldn't this thread go in "General" ?
Just sayin
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