Gabrielle Giffords

[MSimon]

I Blame The Drug War

With way more justification than any of you have for your/left right nonsense.

Very convenient too. Because my argument places skipjack and diogenes on the same side. Kiss and make up fellers. Can I watch?

[MSimon]

Oh. Yeah. I am not allowed to delete anything here that is not obviously spam. (I sure miss the days when we had lots of porno spam - I did a LOT of deletions back then).

You want something deleted go to Joe. But I can tell you he is going to be mightily annoyed.

If thine eyes offend the pluck them out.

[Jccarlton]

This thread is disgusting.

just like 90% of the threads created by Diogenes in this forum.

Grow up little boy. I am shining a light on what is already out there, not creating it myself. What is disgusting is that it is out there, not that I am bringing it to your attention. I am like Mathew Brady. (Civil War Photographer) The New York Times said of Brady’s photographs taken at the Battle of Antietam, “If he [Brady] has not brought bodies and laid them in our door-yards and along our streets, he has done something very like it.”

Does anyone remember this?


Or This?



We now have the entire Liberal media (Which is the same as saying almost all of it.) trying to pin the Giffords shooting on "Tea Party" people, and completely overlooking the fact that the vast majority of the time this stuff is done by a Liberal kook.

Oh, by the way, the guy was also into the Drugs and the Occult. Here is a picture of his Makeshit Satanic Shrine in his mommy and daddy's back yard.





He had also apparently been plotting against Giffords since 2007, so it's kinda hard to blame him on either the Tea Party OR Sarah Palin.

Some more love from the left:

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/th ... 2000-2010/

[Jccarlton]

This thread is disgusting.

If you like this you should watch MSNBC. I can't for more than ten seconds. That Shultz is a piece of work. One would think that a news channel would from time time base even their opinion shows on something that resembles reality and has maybe facts in it.

[MSimon]

Look, who is on Sarah Palins target list!
Gabrielle Giffords!
So whats next, will political opponents be raided up and executed by some backyard execution commando like the communists here did here and in Germany during the 1920ies?

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-pal ... 3854973434

PS: Yes, I am exaggerating, but so are 90% of the posts by jccarlton, Diogenes and co...
Just enjoying the satisfaction of returning the loving ;)

Dude those aren't targets. They are crop marks. Haven't you ever done page layout the old fashioned way? Sheesh.

[MSimon]

Look, who is on Sarah Palins target list!
Gabrielle Giffords!
So whats next, will political opponents be raided up and executed by some backyard execution commando like the communists here did here and in Germany during the 1920ies?

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-pal ... 3854973434

PS: Yes, I am exaggerating, but so are 90% of the posts by jccarlton, Diogenes and co...
Just enjoying the satisfaction of returning the loving ;)

But it's the Progressives who have been going around saying that the young should rise up in violent revolution and the shoooter was just the kind of loner anarchist type who would buy into that stuff. So I guess that we are getting the backyard executions of non lefties by communist commandos.
More from the dailly kooks:
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/201 ... blogg.html

He was not a loner anarchist. He is a paranoid schizophrenic.

If you want to make something political out of it ask yourself why he was not in a hospital. I'll tell you why. Ronald Reagan de-institutionalized the mentally ill based on the theories of Thomas Szaz. And now we have people living under bridges. Or in jail.

Have I gored everybody's ox yet?

[MSimon]

"It was mostly directed at Msimon, so he understands that a large part of the jewish people here are generally on the left wing and very much against all that the US right wing (including himself) stands for."

Thanks for that. I'll keep it in mind.

I was under the impression that Austria with the assistance of Germany had solved the Jewish question. Back to the drawing boards, eh?

I will admit I'm not well loved in the Synagogue I nominally belong to. So what?

"I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." — William S. Burroughs

“After a shooting spree, they always want to take guns from the people who didn’t do it.” -William S. Burroughs.

[Jccarlton]

The lefties are so full of love and kindness:
http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/01 ... the-right/

[KitemanSA]

He was not a loner anarchist. He is a paranoid schizophrenic.

If you want to make something political out of it ask yourself why he was not in a hospital. I'll tell you why. Ronald Reagan de-institutionalized the mentally ill based on the theories of Thomas Szaz. And now we have people living under bridges. Or in jail.

Have I gored everybody's ox yet?

I was under the impression that it was the CCHR law suits as high as the Supremes that brought about said "de-institutionalization", not Reagan.

Either way, it seems about time to be a bit more rational about the issue. Neither "lock-em up and throw away the key" NOR "let-em freeze on a subway grating" seems an appropriate policy.

[TDPerk]

"skipjack, just ignore tdperk, he's obviously just trolling. don't feed the trolls."

Yeah. The person who brought up haircutting in an embryonic stem cell thread knows trolling when they see it

[MSimon]

He was not a loner anarchist. He is a paranoid schizophrenic.

If you want to make something political out of it ask yourself why he was not in a hospital. I'll tell you why. Ronald Reagan de-institutionalized the mentally ill based on the theories of Thomas Szaz. And now we have people living under bridges. Or in jail.

Have I gored everybody's ox yet?

I was under the impression that it was the CCHR law suits as high as the Supremes that brought about said "de-institutionalization", not Reagan.

Either way, it seems about time to be a bit more rational about the issue. Neither "lock-em up and throw away the key" NOR "let-em freeze on a subway grating" seems an appropriate policy.

Thanks for that. I was repeating something from a comment from a source I trusted.

But on the general issue we are in agreement.

===

It is amusing to see the rantings of a paranoid schizophrenic elevated to the level of rational discourse. Starts to make you wonder if there are enough sane people in the US to make it work.

[TDPerk]

I don't know that Skipjack wasn't trolling in bringing up the shooting of Giffords and the several other people, but I am certain he wasn't trolling when he was complaining about jews, and when he was making apologetic--"hey look at the silver lining"--posts when talking about WII.

[TDPerk]

"And a one year old did exactly contribute to this how?!!! You are so pathetic, it is hard to put into words!"

You think a 1 year old can't be a victim and then live a long time.

"But you were demonizing the Germans as a people. You are also being very broad with this and explicitly broad, even including infants. That is racist."

If that's what I'd done, it would be bigoted against Germans/Austrians, not racist. I would suppose the odds are very good that you and I both are caucasian. However, I was solely telling you how long I thought those nationalities would be held to particular account for their crimes against humanity--when the last individual who had done harm or who had harm done to them passed, at the earliest.

"My statement was a quick remark in braces of a much longer sentence. It was shortened for the sake of space and not for the sake of being racist."

Given your WWII apologetics, I don't believe you. I would have similar suspicions of a known Confederate apologist who slipped and said nigger in a fast conversation. And you have certainly confirmed here in this thread that you think Austrian (German) is a race--the same sort of thinking that leads to Arbeit Macht Frei.

"Plus it really is many of the jews here and their official channels too."

So you're sure that makes it a fair point of yours, then?

"And finally, I was not saying anything that was a really mean attack or being explicitely against a people."

So it was only an exasperated attacks on the "jews?" I have great quibbles with many Israeli policies, but when I criticize those I say Israeli--I have been known to say Izzies, also frogs, and brits.

"So many people "cry Hitler" all the time. I do hate when people do it, but I dont explicitely hate the people that do it."

I just wish his memes were as dead as he was. Evidently not.

"I just think that they are not being very fair when they do that."

And when they do that and they are not fair, it is because they are of the left. The ethnicity of the left excuses no notice of it as if it were politically meaningful.

"Interpreting that as "being hateful" towards people is going a bit far, dont you think?"

Nope.

"But again, it is the "walking on eggshells thing" and exactly what I was saying with my post that you so kindly critizised me for."

With your silver lining apologetics, you weren't walking on eggshells, you were tapdancing on landmines.

"Whenever an Austrian or German says anything that does even remotely not fit with certain people. Hitler is emmidately raised from his grave and the person in question is emmediately accused of things including but not limited to antisemitism, fascism, naziism, racism, radicalism and other nice things that I may be missing in this list."

Well, you're doing wonderful job of getting out from under the Austrian Corporal's umbrella.

"In case you have not noticed, my original post was somewhat tongue in cheek."

Ah! Unexpectedly, the failed joke defense.

"I was simply trying to poke some fun at the posts the likes of jccarlton and Diogenes usually do on this board. IMHO, they are just as ridiculously blowing things out of proportion. That was my point. Please read my initial post again. It is strange though, how much that got you to explode "

I don't agree with everything they post here, but there is evidence behind and linked to in their posts. There is no trace of a connection between the shooting of Giffords and any statement or image associated with Sarah Palin.

"You even went so far to make really mean accusations regarding my person. Those accusations were really unfair though and I would still like an apollogy for that."

I don't at this time believe that any apologies are warranted.

[TDPerk]

If it's any balm to you, Skipjack, I don't think you're more anti-semitic than any randomly selected European is likely to be; and if it is any balm to you, then I'm happy for it to be so.

[Roger]

This thread is disgusting.

just like 90% of the threads created by Diogenes in this forum.

Grow up little boy. I am shining a light on what is already out there,.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... ent=safari




Its Funny/ironic how so much of this shit is being taken down from the internet.