Any Polywell data in the wikileaks?
Any Polywell data in the wikileaks?
Just a thought as I saw a topic on NASA_Spaceflight Forum asking about any WikiLeaks of NASA data. I don't know of any, do you?
Aero
I have not seen anything leaked that would really be of interest to anybody. I have not even heard or seen anything really damaging that was leaked. I mean the world pretty much knew what the US was thinking about us anyway. All you have to do is watch the O'Railey hour and you know what the average US citizen thinks about the rest of the world 
So I really dont know what all the fuzz is about.
So I really dont know what all the fuzz is about.
Indeed. From where I am sitting as a mere mortal, it all looks highly hypocritical (or hypercritical?).
Wikileaks seems to be dishing out nothing more than embarrassments for governments, rather than harmful stuff. This is, simply, what journalism should be doing in a [supposed] democratic society [but on which most of the media appears to do a poor and slimey job of it].
For Governments to consider that their embarrassing issues are, by inference/definition, matters of national security merely demonstrates a corruption [of mission] in government.
In China, an act the government considers seditious is declared as such and attracts a prison sentence. In the 'free world', an act the government considers seditious attracts a trumped-up charge on some totally unrelated matter, usually of a nature to imply perverted human frailties and a defective character. It seems to me that western powers cannot afford to investigate sedition as it is the crime that most intersects with freedom of the individual, and they do not want to wake that beast up.
At least China is straight forward about it?
Wikileaks seems to be dishing out nothing more than embarrassments for governments, rather than harmful stuff. This is, simply, what journalism should be doing in a [supposed] democratic society [but on which most of the media appears to do a poor and slimey job of it].
For Governments to consider that their embarrassing issues are, by inference/definition, matters of national security merely demonstrates a corruption [of mission] in government.
In China, an act the government considers seditious is declared as such and attracts a prison sentence. In the 'free world', an act the government considers seditious attracts a trumped-up charge on some totally unrelated matter, usually of a nature to imply perverted human frailties and a defective character. It seems to me that western powers cannot afford to investigate sedition as it is the crime that most intersects with freedom of the individual, and they do not want to wake that beast up.
At least China is straight forward about it?
Re: Any Polywell data in the wikileaks?
Wikileaks is only covering things which are an embarrassment to governments, like bad decisions on supporting actions and causes that the public wouldn't want them to, if they knew the details ....Aero wrote:Any Polywell data in the wikileaks? Just a thought as I saw a topic on NASA_Spaceflight Forum asking about any WikiLeaks of NASA data. I don't know of any, do you?
..... I suppose that might mean .....?
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CaptainBeowulf
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Additional releases by wikileaks since this discussion started have become more damaging. Primarily:
1. Identities of informants/guides/translators in Iraq and Afghanistan, whose lives and families' lives could now be in greater danger.
2. Lists of vulnerable sites in a number of countries, from weapons factories to biotechnology labs to toxic chemical handling sites, which could be important targets for terrorist attack. Now, at least some of the more capable terrorists could figure most of these out for themselves. However, let's be frank: a lot of terrorists are pretty dumb. They try to crash through walls at airports or blow themselves up in front of nightclubs or light their shoes or groins on fire, or join the army and then go bonkers and shoot a bunch of their comrades. Giving them a ready-made list of high priority targets paints a bigger bulls-eye on those sites than before.
I don't appreciate wikileaks spreading around the above kind of data. But most of the other stuff is pretty much a non-starter.
1. Identities of informants/guides/translators in Iraq and Afghanistan, whose lives and families' lives could now be in greater danger.
2. Lists of vulnerable sites in a number of countries, from weapons factories to biotechnology labs to toxic chemical handling sites, which could be important targets for terrorist attack. Now, at least some of the more capable terrorists could figure most of these out for themselves. However, let's be frank: a lot of terrorists are pretty dumb. They try to crash through walls at airports or blow themselves up in front of nightclubs or light their shoes or groins on fire, or join the army and then go bonkers and shoot a bunch of their comrades. Giving them a ready-made list of high priority targets paints a bigger bulls-eye on those sites than before.
I don't appreciate wikileaks spreading around the above kind of data. But most of the other stuff is pretty much a non-starter.
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ ... he-damned/
Assange claimed he spent his early years on the run from his stepdad and this cult with his mom, but I just saw an interview with his stepdad who talked about him growing up and how they got him his first computer. Weird how he dies his hair blonde like the cult kids even if he was on the run from them.
Assange claimed he spent his early years on the run from his stepdad and this cult with his mom, but I just saw an interview with his stepdad who talked about him growing up and how they got him his first computer. Weird how he dies his hair blonde like the cult kids even if he was on the run from them.
CHoff
What gets me is that for the most part, the terabytes of leaks at Wikileaks are all mostly pablum, yet they're the mainstream media darlings. Meanwhile, some alternative media researchers and journalists have been exposing high level corruption and crime for decades, painstakingly documenting their work, but the mainstream turns a blind eye, total cognitive dissonance!
CHoff