How many times do you have to e.g. call him a child or say he's dicking people around, for you to remember what the invariable consequence is: his irritation? Do you care more about finding out what someone thinks/knows, or about making him behave a certain way? Doc Prins' privilege to post on this forum shouldn't have for prerequisite to answer your questions or accommodate your indignation.
Read the above at face value.
Room-temperature superconductivity?
If anyone can be bothered, go back and see precisely where the insulting begins, it is invariably from prins's side, shouldn't that be obvious just by the sheer number of people that he has pissed off?
As GIT has just found out to his chagrin.
45 pages and counting .... question, prevarication, re-question, acerbic reply and let the insults begin ...
As GIT has just found out to his chagrin.
45 pages and counting .... question, prevarication, re-question, acerbic reply and let the insults begin ...
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I have said it and it is in the open literature. The fact is that I have demonstrated that a superconducting phase can form between a diamond surface and an anode, and the physics proving it is so simple and elementary that even those who have only a smattering of high school physics can follow the logic. It is there and YOU have not made a single attempt to read or criticize the actual physics involved; but keeps on playing a childish game trying to extract information from me on my present IP.GIThruster wrote:No, Dr, Prins. If you have something to say, say it.
By having patented and published that a superconducting phase can form when extracting electrons from a diamond and having written TWO books about it, you falsely accuse ME of not coming "clean". It is YOU who is not coming clean with what you try to do and then you blame me falsely!In all these many dozens of posts, you have not "come clean".
The simple statement is that one can generate superconduction at room temperature by extracting electrons from a diamond using an anode in high vacuum, has been made over and over again. And this has been fully reported and explained. In fact it is the very first experiment that proves that charge can be transported through a phase of electrons while the electric field IS and MUST be ZERO. This has NEVER been proved for any other phase EVER.Either make a simple statement, a claim concerning factual matters, or stop wasting everyone's time.
REALLY?!! What about "string theory" and "brane theory": Have they made any observations that satisfy you? have they offered you a string or a brane to analyze? In my case I have reported the observations on my superconducting phase AND showed that all the measurements which had been made on superconduction by numerous other people on other materials (including those they cannot explain) fit my theory: So this is not enough?To date, you have not done anything other than waste people's time. I understand you're very impressed with your theory, but science isn't satisfied with just theory. science requires observation.
Where have I been dishonest in any way? The observations which I supposedly "offered to others" have also been offered to the whole scientific community by the last manuscripts I was allowed to publish. I take great exception to it to be called dishonest while it is really you who are being dishonest by twisting the facts to fit your unknown agenda.Science requires observation. If you can't be honest and open about the observations you've supposedly offered to others, you don't belong on this form.
Working together with you! Do you think I will EVER be so stupid and crazy! It is YOU with your distortion of the facts who do not act like an ADULT? God help us!Fess up, and stop acting like a six year-old. This emotional trouble you suffer is after all why we're not working together--because you don't ACT LIKE AN ADULT.
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I have decided to just ignore your inane comments: But since for the very first time you asked a question on this thread which is, probably by accident, intelligent, I will answer it.icarus wrote: Really, how do you define room temperature electrons in a high vacuum? Angels dancing on the head of a pin anyone?
There are not any separate electrons since the phase that has formed is a single macro-entangled wave. It is a single entity like all real Bose-Einstein Condensates MUST be. It is thus the electron equivalent of a laser beam. But of course it is stationary like all matter waves must be within their inertial reference frames. The charge-carriers within a superconducting material does not form such a single-entity "condensate" since they cannot come close enough to one another, and therefore they can be and are in most of the superconductors, fermions.
So you do not need "Angels dancing on the head of a pin" since there is only ONE entity; namely a single macro-wave. The Angels have lost their separate identities to become part of a larger single whole: Just as wave mechanics actually requires when so-called "particles" entangle. It is for this reason that the Copenhagen interpretation is BS.
Johan,
I might suggest this as a good forum to make your points:
http://www.physicsforums.com/
(Specifically, the Independent Research forum http://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=146 )
Discussions tend to be very technical. I don't think you'll be censored just for being unorthodox as you might from journals. If your arguments are persuasive, your ideas might find an inroad into the physics community there, or at least force a minor beachhead. Be warned, they are fairly strict about proper behavior.
I might suggest this as a good forum to make your points:
http://www.physicsforums.com/
(Specifically, the Independent Research forum http://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=146 )
Discussions tend to be very technical. I don't think you'll be censored just for being unorthodox as you might from journals. If your arguments are persuasive, your ideas might find an inroad into the physics community there, or at least force a minor beachhead. Be warned, they are fairly strict about proper behavior.
n*kBolt*Te = B**2/(2*mu0) and B^.25 loss scaling? Or not so much? Hopefully we'll know soon...
prins:
In fact, in your 'answer' the word temperature does not occur once ... just how can you have "room temperature superconduction" if your 'current carriers' thing are in high vacuum, do you even define a temperature for your "super-mega-wave electron" magical thingy?
PS: Prins would not last 1 day in physicsforums and I'm kind of embarassed for you TallDave that you think he is even coming close to technical discussions, where's the equations? where's the numbers? He is absolutely full of it but it is not physics, some kind of philosophic "what might have been" nostalgic wanderings on ghosts of physics questions past.
... and yet, unsurprisingly you did not answer the question, just as you never do, you never even came close but went off on a tangent about BE condensate ... wtf?I have decided to just ignore your inane comments: But since for the very first time you asked a question on this thread which is, probably by accident, intelligent, I will answer it.
In fact, in your 'answer' the word temperature does not occur once ... just how can you have "room temperature superconduction" if your 'current carriers' thing are in high vacuum, do you even define a temperature for your "super-mega-wave electron" magical thingy?
PS: Prins would not last 1 day in physicsforums and I'm kind of embarassed for you TallDave that you think he is even coming close to technical discussions, where's the equations? where's the numbers? He is absolutely full of it but it is not physics, some kind of philosophic "what might have been" nostalgic wanderings on ghosts of physics questions past.
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Well, I'm done. I can't waste my time with someone so totally taciturn that he turns and bites at every advocate.
Just FYI for everyone here concerned, I happen to be well enough connected I could have helped Johan, but every time I try to tell the story, I have to explain, that Johan is an emotional idiot, and as difficult to handle as anyone can be. At this point, all possible investors run for the hills, and this has now happened six times.
Johan, you're an idiot, who thinks he's so smart he's going to become rich based upon theory you alone hold. The truth is, inventors never become rich. Investors become rich. Prattle to yourself as much as you like telling yourself you're a brainiac who deserves the kingdom delivered to his feet. Truth is, you're a social misfit, who is going to go into obscurity because you're too emotionally immature to act like a twelve year-old.
Best of luck.
Anyone want to buy an unread book by a social misfit?
Just FYI for everyone here concerned, I happen to be well enough connected I could have helped Johan, but every time I try to tell the story, I have to explain, that Johan is an emotional idiot, and as difficult to handle as anyone can be. At this point, all possible investors run for the hills, and this has now happened six times.
Johan, you're an idiot, who thinks he's so smart he's going to become rich based upon theory you alone hold. The truth is, inventors never become rich. Investors become rich. Prattle to yourself as much as you like telling yourself you're a brainiac who deserves the kingdom delivered to his feet. Truth is, you're a social misfit, who is going to go into obscurity because you're too emotionally immature to act like a twelve year-old.
Best of luck.
Anyone want to buy an unread book by a social misfit?
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
To reconduct the thread, here are the cliff notes.
Note that I am casually jumping from chapter to chapter at random when reading his book so I might not get it completely right as I havent read even half of it. Any misrepresentation is a misunderstanding on my part and not out of malice. Im sure Johan will correct any misconceptions.
Johan has discovered TWO types of superconducting "materials" (superconducting phases). One is of high comercial value, the other is just a scientific curiosity.
1. The first one is your good old solid state superconductor only it works at room temperature. Think your canonical superconducting ring and whatnot.
The details are kept secret to protect his investment but he has explained the basics scattered among its many posts here and elsewhere. I can recap for you guys if you are interested but will take time.
Suffice to say that he knows what properties a superconducting phase must have in order to be a room temperature superconductor. He can calculate, for example, that a cuprate (widelly used as a superconductor requiring cooling) is not going to work.
2. The second one is related to the two famous sustrates that were sent to labs (I think). It is not covered by IP.
Imagine a capacitor where one of the plates is a n-doped diamond (excess electrons) and the other plate is just an anode (will charge positively when the circuit is closed). The plates are separated by a vacuum.
In his experiment he applies an electric field (closes the circuit) and a black Bose-Einstein condensate filament made of electrons forms from the diamond surface into the anode. That BEC is superconducting and the diamond sustrate is just there to create the electron-made BEC.
Read around page 200 in his book if you have it.
As you can imagine, those sustrates are not going to help him sell his IP since is a completely diferent thing altogether. Though the second one by certain logic steps helps explain the mechanism of the first one. It takes the whole book for that.
When icarus asked about electrons in a vacuum he reminded Johan of this second type of superconductor and he explained it.
While in the end the same principle is at work, you can think of it as if got nothing to do (to a point) with the main technology he wants to sell.
I recomend his book. It is worth the read, GiT.
Please, cut him some more slack. Again. Hes got a quick temper but he really knows his physics.
Note that I am casually jumping from chapter to chapter at random when reading his book so I might not get it completely right as I havent read even half of it. Any misrepresentation is a misunderstanding on my part and not out of malice. Im sure Johan will correct any misconceptions.
Johan has discovered TWO types of superconducting "materials" (superconducting phases). One is of high comercial value, the other is just a scientific curiosity.
1. The first one is your good old solid state superconductor only it works at room temperature. Think your canonical superconducting ring and whatnot.
The details are kept secret to protect his investment but he has explained the basics scattered among its many posts here and elsewhere. I can recap for you guys if you are interested but will take time.
Suffice to say that he knows what properties a superconducting phase must have in order to be a room temperature superconductor. He can calculate, for example, that a cuprate (widelly used as a superconductor requiring cooling) is not going to work.
2. The second one is related to the two famous sustrates that were sent to labs (I think). It is not covered by IP.
Imagine a capacitor where one of the plates is a n-doped diamond (excess electrons) and the other plate is just an anode (will charge positively when the circuit is closed). The plates are separated by a vacuum.
In his experiment he applies an electric field (closes the circuit) and a black Bose-Einstein condensate filament made of electrons forms from the diamond surface into the anode. That BEC is superconducting and the diamond sustrate is just there to create the electron-made BEC.
Read around page 200 in his book if you have it.
As you can imagine, those sustrates are not going to help him sell his IP since is a completely diferent thing altogether. Though the second one by certain logic steps helps explain the mechanism of the first one. It takes the whole book for that.
When icarus asked about electrons in a vacuum he reminded Johan of this second type of superconductor and he explained it.
While in the end the same principle is at work, you can think of it as if got nothing to do (to a point) with the main technology he wants to sell.
I recomend his book. It is worth the read, GiT.
Please, cut him some more slack. Again. Hes got a quick temper but he really knows his physics.
Electrons cannot form Bose-Einstein condensates because they are not bosons (integer spin) but they are fermions (spin 1/2) , so that part is explained wrong (in need of a new theory?) to begin with.
and then this fantastical statement ....
"A black Bose-Einstein condensate filament made of electrons forms from the diamond surface into the anode "... why not just put the video up on YouTube? With a discovery of that magnitude he'd be famous overnight, if that is what he wants.
and then this fantastical statement ....
"A black Bose-Einstein condensate filament made of electrons forms from the diamond surface into the anode "... why not just put the video up on YouTube? With a discovery of that magnitude he'd be famous overnight, if that is what he wants.
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Sorry to disappoint you. As far as I remember this is the forum which about 5 years ago "banned" me for life since I was audacious enough to post that super-conduction is possible at room temperature and that I have published the result.TallDave wrote:Johan,
I might suggest this as a good forum to make your points:
http://www.physicsforums.com/
(Specifically, the Independent Research forum http://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=146 )
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No misconceptions. You have done a sterling job. Thank you I need some people who are willing first read the science before jumping to uninformed conclusions; like GIThruster and Icarus are doing. It is their mentality that has become the rule and has drawn physics down into a cesspit.nogo wrote:To reconduct the thread, here are the cliff notes.
Note that I am casually jumping from chapter to chapter at random when reading his book so I might not get it completely right as I havent read even half of it. Any misrepresentation is a misunderstanding on my part and not out of malice. Im sure Johan will correct any misconceptions.
That's funny. GIT was your biggest fan, until a few posts ago.johanfprins wrote: Thank you I need some people who are willing first read the science before jumping to uninformed conclusions; like GIThruster and Icarus are doing. It is their mentality that has become the rule and has drawn physics down into a cesspit.
Go on, NoGo, ask a few question see how long you stay in his 'good books'. You're the only friend he's got in this thread now.
Well, now... that sets a useful precedent, doesn't it!?....johanfprins wrote:Sorry to disappoint you. As far as I remember this is the forum which about 5 years ago "banned" me for life since I was audacious enough to post that super-conduction is possible at room temperature and that I have published the result.TallDave wrote:Johan,
I might suggest this as a good forum to make your points:
I very much doubt you were banned for audaciousness. Never heard that one. But, perchance, maybe it was to do with you calling them snake's assholes and your selective memory of the events 5 years ago forgot that?
Don't worry...I am outahere..... I just felt I had to point that out to you in the hope that you will stop raging and being so self-destructive.