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[KitemanSA]

I'm still waiting to see
results Honestly GT, you seem like a decent guy but I'm surprised you so easily buy a claim worth trillions but only replicated by one lab.

Polywell?

Well - there is the hobbyist who actually got fusion from a polywell he built himself.
And other labs have verified the central well formation.

I presume you are thinking about famulus who has succeeded in fusion using a fusor, similar to several dozen other folks. I know of no-one who has done fusion with a polywell yet, other than EMC2. Anyone?

I keep trying to start up an amateur effort, but while I am willing to wind some MaGrids, I am not able, not willing, to set up the electrical systems nor the chamber.

Does anyone have a chamber up and running (or easily made functional) that can hold a ~30 cm MaGrid? If so, please show yourself!

[kcdodd]

After a few seconds of searching: http://users.rowan.edu/~jansson/


Here is his report: http://blacklightpower.com/pdf/BLPIndependentReport.pdf
http://users.rowan.edu/~jansson/blackli ... er2009.pdf

"While this initial analysis is not intended to conclusively validate BLP’s lower energy hydrogen hypothesis our conclusions clearly are not in conflict with it."

[rcain]

thanks for that, kcdodd.

Many additional studies by the Department of Chemistry indicate that an anomalous signature of a novel form of hydrogen (called “hydrino” by BLP) has been observed during characterization of the products.
...
We encourage the scientific community to replicate our experiments and seek to understand with us if there are any alternative explanations for these consistent experimental results.

+ the yield graphs look quite enticing. that was in 2009. i wonder if anyone has taken them up on that challenge?

[TallDave]

BLP has produced a fantastic amount of data that almost no one has been willing to check.

My understanding is a few labs tried to replicate BLP's claims but were unable. I've read through one or two of these attempts and they appear to be have been undertaken in good faith.

My prediction is we will not see accelerating deployment of BLP tech between now and 2011, nor will we hear reports from clients about how great it's working. By the end of 2012, I think the wheels start to come off in a big way as no revenue materializes, and in 2013 we'll hear excuses and claims of conspiracy.

[rcain]

...I've read through one or two of these attempts and they appear to be have been undertaken in good faith.

do you happen to have links?

[icarus]

Does anyone have a chamber up and running (or easily made functional) that can hold a ~30 cm MaGrid? If so, please show yourself!

Yeah, ok then. Send me a check, I'll put together a proposal. Send me another check and I'll do some stuff in my lab. Then send me the 'final phase' check and I may or may not send you the report/data from the experiments, depending upon whether my company deems the work 'proprietary'.

[Giorgio]

Giorgio, the water calorimetery study at Rowan is more than sufficient to demonstrate the power output you seek.

It proves just that there was a chemical reaction.

No. It does much more. You obviously have not read the report from Rowan.

I actually read it, but I can easily prove to you that the excess heat they say they have found can be easily reconducted to a side reaction of he nickel.

I can easily disprove any "proof" they say they have until now. Until I see a closed loop with actual extra heat generation we can talk forever...

[KitemanSA]

Does anyone have a chamber up and running (or easily made functional) that can hold a ~30 cm MaGrid? If so, please show yourself!

Yeah, ok then. Send me a check, I'll put together a proposal. Send me another check and I'll do some stuff in my lab. Then send me the 'final phase' check and I may or may not send you the report/data from the experiments, depending upon whether my company deems the work 'proprietary'.

Was this posted simply to PROVE you have nothing positive to add?

So, ignoring ol' lack-wing here, does anyone else have a chamber?

[chrismb]

But he's got a point. Maybe I'll have a go, if you can supply a magrid to fit my 210mm ID chamber. If I then find something real interesting out with my effort, then why should I tell you if I can get some IP out of it?

[TallDave]

...I've read through one or two of these attempts and they appear to be have been undertaken in good faith.

do you happen to have links?

Not offhand, it was a while ago. I think one of them was an outfit called Earthsea or something.

[GIThruster]

I actually read it, but I can easily prove to you that the excess heat they say they have found can be easily reconducted to a side reaction of he nickel.

I can easily disprove any "proof" they say they have until now. Until I see a closed loop with actual extra heat generation we can talk forever...

I see. So when the researchers at Rowan conclude "According to our elemental analysis results using ICP‐MS, we do not see significant amount of other elements that could play a role in the synthesis. Accordingly, we have ruled out the role of other elements in these reactions." you somehow know better than they do and you can prove they're wrong. You know better than a pair of PhD chemists who did the analysis. Can I ask how you know better that these scientists without having done the experiment yourself? Are you a chemist?

From: http://www.blacklightpower.com/pdf/BLPI ... Report.pdf pg. 13.

Again,

"In a joint statement, Dr. K.V. Ramanujachary, Rowan University Meritorious Professor of Chemistry and Biochemistry, Dr. Amos Mugweru, Assistant Professor of Chemistry, and Dr. Peter Jansson P.E., Associate Professor of Engineering said, “In independent tests conducted over the past three months involving 10 solid fuels made by us from commercially-available chemicals, our team of engineering and chemistry professors, staff, and students at Rowan University has independently and consistently generated energy in excesses ranging from 1.2 times to 6.5 times the maximum theoretical heat available through known chemical reactions.”

from http://www.blacklightpower.com/Press%20 ... 081209.htm

So without having done the experiment, you can contradict not one or two but three PhD professors at one of the world's most prestigious engineering schools. Well that's impressive, Giorgio. Okay. Lets see your "proof"?

[KitemanSA]

But he's got a point. Maybe I'll have a go, if you can supply a magrid to fit my 210mm ID chamber. If I then find something real interesting out with my effort, then why should I tell you if I can get some IP out of it?

So we now have two nattering neybobs of negativism. Anyone with anyting positive to add?

[chrismb]

No. This is just pointing out how the world works. People don't do sh*t for sh*t these days. Everyone's got their own problems and projects to get on with than worry about someone else's scheme. If they weren't the kinds of people to proactively do such projects, then why would you ask them to help?

Projects need seed money to kick off with. Whether government, commercial, VC or private, you need to figure out who's paying before you ask something like that.

[icarus]

Three PhD professors, 1 showman genius, 15 years and tens of millions of dollars in 'research' funds and they haven't powered a single light bulb, by all accounts.

That's some energy generation tech. you got there fella.

Until they build a net power generator BLP got diddly-doodly squat.

[icarus]

Was this posted simply to PROVE you have nothing positive to add?

Actually it proved my point. You cannot possibly see the hypocrisy of your position supporting EMC2, whilst asking for someone to do experiments for you and expecting to get data back.