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tomclarke wrote:Simon -

Your arguments against regulation are incomplete. If the overall system is too complex the "wisdom of the crowd" cannot work. And while people need to take risks and learn if you have the wrong sort of system the risks are unknowable and no-one can learn.

My point is that the "regulation is bad, absolute market freedom ois good" like most absolute and simplsitic philosophies, leads to inevitable problems.

TANSTAAFL and

TANSS

"there ain't no simple solutions"
"too complex" only fights against the PTB's assumptions as to what the "wisdom of the crowd" SHOULD be, because a complex market enables all players to engage fully and prevents key power brokers from manipulating mindshare (aka akin to three tv networks controlling the airwaves vs 500 cable channels)

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ravingdave wrote:
TallDave wrote:Uh oh, this one hurts: strong negative cloud feedback.

I always expected they would find this. There have to be strong moderating feedbacks that kick in at both lower and higher temperatures or the Earth would have fallen/climbed to a different equilibirum sometime in its 4 billion years.
I check in here occasionally. Yup. My argument all along. If Water Vapor was not a negative feedback system, we all would have been dead billions of years ago.


David
Ha looks like you guys beat me to it. I was just about to post a link to that piece on CA. Nail in the coffins of the chicken littles. Just wait until Watts comes out with his final surfacestations.com study, you guys are going to be smiling for weeks when he takes a flamethrower to GISS. That one site with the HVAC units seems to be pretty par for the course. I warned Anthony that he's going to be blamed for a virtual Ice Age if his report causes all the GISS stations to clean up their acts.

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Murphy was an optimist.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.

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Well I started a new thread. So there!
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MSimon wrote:Well I started a new thread. So there!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/12/c ... edictions/

"When someone says 'global warming is unequivocal', I hear 'Freddie Mac is cheap'."

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MSM organ takes note of what's really happening.
Anthropomorphic Global warming (TM) has always been a myth. Now, if it wasn't before; it is incontestible--by the honest and undeluded--it is a hoax.

There is no correlation between human activity and reliably observed climate temperatures. In fact, there seem not to be any reliably observed measures of climate's temperature.

What there is is an excellent correlation between sunspots and one of the best proxies for climate temperature, which is how well our crops do and where.

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Re: Man bites dog.

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TDPerk wrote:Anthropomorphic Global warming (TM)
Human Shaped Global Warming... never heard of it. Now I have heard of Human Caused Global Warming (Anthropogenic Global Warming) but not Human Shaped. :)

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Anthropomorphic...

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...Anthropogenic?

What's the diff? :roll:

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Re: Anthropomorphic...

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TDPerk wrote:...Anthropogenic?

What's the diff? :roll:

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"Anthro" = human, human-like
"Genic" = generated, created
"Morphic" = shaped

Anthropogenic Global Warming = human-created global warming
Anthropomorphic Global Warming = human-shaped global warming

Its nerd humor.
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rolleyes equals self deprecating sarcasm

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Thank you djolds.

However, I was trying to convey self deprecating humor with the rolleyes emoticon. I'm aware of the difference. TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp
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Re: rolleyes equals self deprecating sarcasm

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TDPerk wrote:Thank you djolds.

However, I was trying to convey self deprecating humor with the rolleyes emoticon. I'm aware of the difference. TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp

"Dying is easy, comedy is hard." -Sir Donald Wolfit,


Seriously. I've done lots of stuff *I* thought was funny, but the stuff seems to go under around here without even a splash.

Take my "Landru" post... Please ! ( viewtopic.php?p=21300#21300 ) It's been viewed 155 times, and not ONE amused comment.

:)

David

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