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Re: Skynet is coming.

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That's just what we use and we are a few years and dollars behind the power curve. But her is a good article referencing this. It did not say if WASS was part of the solution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_ ... ion_System
Centimeter-accurate positioning systems are already used in geology, surveying and mapping, but the survey-grade antennas these systems employ are too large and costly for use in mobile devices. The breakthrough by Humphreys and his team is a powerful and sensitive software-defined GPS receiver that can extract centimeter accuracies from the inexpensive antennas found in mobile devices—such precise measurements were not previously possible. The researchers anticipate that their software's ability to leverage low-cost antennas will reduce the overall cost of centimeter accuracy, making it economically feasible for mobile devices.
Humphreys and his team have spent six years building a specialized receiver, called GRID, to extract so-called carrier phase measurements from low-cost antennas. GRID currently operates outside the phone, but it will eventually run on the phone's internal processor.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-05-centimeter ... e.html#jCp
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paperburn1 wrote:That's just what we use and we are a few years and dollars behind the power curve. But her is a good article referencing this. It did not say if WASS was part of the solution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_ ... ion_System
Centimeter-accurate positioning systems are already used in geology, surveying and mapping, but the survey-grade antennas these systems employ are too large and costly for use in mobile devices. The breakthrough by Humphreys and his team is a powerful and sensitive software-defined GPS receiver that can extract centimeter accuracies from the inexpensive antennas found in mobile devices—such precise measurements were not previously possible. The researchers anticipate that their software's ability to leverage low-cost antennas will reduce the overall cost of centimeter accuracy, making it economically feasible for mobile devices.
Humphreys and his team have spent six years building a specialized receiver, called GRID, to extract so-called carrier phase measurements from low-cost antennas. GRID currently operates outside the phone, but it will eventually run on the phone's internal processor.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-05-centimeter ... e.html#jCp


As I have mentioned, I find it hard to believe that this idea will work from Satellites. From a stationary reference nearby, yes, but from Satellites? I find that hard to believe.


Imagine trying to look at a light source several hundred feet below the surface of the ocean. The light will be subjected to varying levels of refraction in an unpredictable way due to the changing ripples and eddies in the water.



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In the same manner, radio waves are subject to refraction by the atmosphere, though the severity depends on the frequencies involved.


Still, I find it amazing that atmospheric refraction variance alone would not render such accuracy impossible.
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If you start from a known point the accuracy can be very high as well.
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Syringe-injectable electronics
http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vao ... 5.115.html

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"Johnny Mnemonic" is a data trafficker who has undergone cybernetic surgery to have a data storage system implanted in his head. The system allows him to store digital data too sensitive to risk transmission on computer networks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mnemonic
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IT HAS BEGUN!!!
http://www.ft.com/intl/fastft/353721/wo ... t-accident
A technician has been killed by a robot at a Volkswagen plant near Kassel, Germany.
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paperburn1 wrote:IT HAS BEGUN!!!
http://www.ft.com/intl/fastft/353721/wo ... t-accident
A technician has been killed by a robot at a Volkswagen plant near Kassel, Germany.
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/07 ... n-germany/
The story gained some morbid attention earlier today when a Financial Times employment reporter named Sarah O’Connor tweeted the story, not realizing the connection between her name and character who has a similar name (Sarah Connor) in the Terminator series. Her tweet was retweeted more than 3,500 times and she received an influx of messages making jokes about the news. "Feeling really uncomfortable about this inadvertent Twitter thing I seem to have kicked off,” she tweeted later today. "Somebody died. Let's not forget.”

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JoeP wrote:
paperburn1 wrote:IT HAS BEGUN!!!
http://www.ft.com/intl/fastft/353721/wo ... t-accident
A technician has been killed by a robot at a Volkswagen plant near Kassel, Germany.
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/07 ... n-germany/
The story gained some morbid attention earlier today when a Financial Times employment reporter named Sarah O’Connor tweeted the story, not realizing the connection between her name and character who has a similar name (Sarah Connor) in the Terminator series. Her tweet was retweeted more than 3,500 times and she received an influx of messages making jokes about the news. "Feeling really uncomfortable about this inadvertent Twitter thing I seem to have kicked off,” she tweeted later today. "Somebody died. Let's not forget.”


"Demolition Man" (1993) predicted the incarceration of an inmate named "Scott Peterson."


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You might remember this guy who murdered his wife in California.


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Now they are starting to get annoyed with us.
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/06/26/ ... ogrammers/
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Re: Skynet is coming.

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This stories right out of weekend tv cartoons.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/n ... attle.html
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http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-re ... p-highway/
I was driving 70 mph on the edge of downtown St. Louis when the exploit began to take hold.

Though I hadn’t touched the dashboard, the vents in the Jeep Cherokee started blasting cold air at the maximum setting, chilling the sweat on my back through the in-seat climate control system. Next the radio switched to the local hip hop station and began blaring Skee-lo at full volume. I spun the control knob left and hit the power button, to no avail. Then the windshield wipers turned on, and wiper fluid blurred the glass.

As I tried to cope with all this, a picture of the two hackers performing these stunts appeared on the car’s digital display: Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek, wearing their trademark track suits. A nice touch, I thought.
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estimated that there are as many as 471,000 vehicles with vulnerable Uconnect systems on the road.
Potential for this nastiness extends into the deadly, including interference with steering, and likely to escape notice in an accident investigation.
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Welcome to the party fellas. I've been here for most of a Decade.




Musk, Hawking warn of 'inevitable' killer robot arms race


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Joining Professor Hawking and SpaceX founder Elon Musk below the letter are Steve Wozniak, cofounder of Apple, linguist Noam Chomsky, cofounder of Sky Jaan Tallinn and Stephen Goose, director of Human Rights Watch's arms division.

The UK says it is not developing lethal AI, but the potential to build such weapons already exists and is developing fast -- a recent report into the future of warfare commissioned by the US military predicts "swarms of robots" will be ubiquitous by 2050. In response, experts and high-profile figures like Musk have made repeated calls to limit the development of deadly AI, even as peaceful autonomy grows more central to virtually every other area of tech and industry. The Future of Life Institute announced in June it would use a $10m donation from Elon Musk to fund 37 projects aimed at keeping AI "beneficial", with $1.5m dedicated to a new research centre in the UK run by Oxford and Cambridge universities.


http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... -arms-race
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I guess the real issue here is what anyone means when they say "AI".

For instance, I would, do, and have argued that we have employed simple AI in self-guiding weapons systems for years. In fact, some of them are fairly sophisticated.
I consider AI, for my purposes, as the ability for an artificial construct to achieve its purpose without human intervention using sensing (data collection), decision making (data analysis and contextualization), and subsequent outputs (actions) of physical or not physical natures as the construct's purpose dictates.

For example; a weapon which could be provided signatures of a target, and then sent to find and engage it.
These systems have been around for many years, and are only getting "smarter".
The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)
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This isn't really on topic, but it is just too much fun to pass it up.



Robot Maggots Feed On Brain Tumors



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http://www.desertsun.com/story/digital- ... /30900259/
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I have decided that Skynet is no longer the problem. We've gone past that point we are borg.
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