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Re: Crime and Punishment: Oklahoma (& Texas) style!

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Firearms carry ban struck down in D.C.



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Attorney Alan Gura, the late Otis McDonald and SAF's Alan Gottlieb discuss their groundbreaking Supreme Court case ruling the Second Amendment applied to the states as well as the federal government


The ban on carrying of firearms by citizens in the nation’s capitol has been struck down by the United States District Court, District of Columbia, attorney Alan Gura, representing plaintiffs in Palmer vs. District of Columbia announced Saturday.

“In light of Heller, McDonald, and their progeny, there is no longer any basis on which this Court can conclude that the District of Columbia’s total ban on the public carrying of ready-to-use handguns outside the home is constitutional under any level of scrutiny,” Senior Judge Frederick J. Scullin, Jr. wrote in a Memorandum-Decision Order signed Thursday and filed today.

“Having reviewed the parties' submissions and the applicable law ... the Court here by GRANTS Plaintiffs' motion for summary judgment and DENIES Defendants' cross-motion for summary judgment,” Judge Scullin wrote, further ordering “that Defendants ... are permanently enjoined from enforcing D .C. Code ... to ban registration of handguns to be carried in public for self- defense by law-a biding citizens.”

“Victory in Palmer v. D.C.,” Gura wrote on his website. “Justice never sleeps…. not even on a Saturday afternoon, when this opinion was just handed down.”

The decision was a long time coming for a case initially filed almost a full five years ago.

The Palmer case, like the Heller and McDonald cases which Gura also represented with backing from the Second Amendment Foundation, produces a major decision that sets back the agenda of those opposing the right to bear arms. For more details on this case, see the SAF website and case documents.






http://www.examiner.com/article/firearm ... k-down-d-c

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Hospital shooting highlights common gun rights argument

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Psychiatrist Dr. Lee Silverman shot Richard Plotts, one of his patients, after Plotts pulled a gun and killed his case worker, Theresa Hunt. Plotts remains in stable but serious condition. (Via KYW-TV)

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports Silverman had a permit for the gun and it was completely within the law for him to have it inside his office.

However, Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital, where the incident occurred, has a strict policy that "employees are prohibited from bringing firearms or explosives of any kind into the workplace."

Still, following the shooting, many say Silverman saved lives. Delaware County District Attorney Jack Whelan announced Friday that Plotts had 39 bullets with him and would likely have continued shooting if Silverman had not acted.
Fox News reports charges against Silverman are unlikely: "I just got off the phone with Yeadon Police Chief Donald Molineux, who hailed Dr. Silverman, in fact, as a hero. He believes the doctor acted in self-defense."


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"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis

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Tough men and women and the weapons they sometimes used were essential to the southern Freedom Movement. And it seems remarkable that some of the most defiant survived in parts of the South where even in mid-20th century America some whites thought they had a God-given right to kill any black person showing discontent. One such unlikely survivor was C.O. Chinn. In his early forties and tall, dark, and muscular, Chinn was already a legend in Madison County, Mississippi, because of his unwillingness to bend to white power. David Dennis, then CORE’s Mississippi project director, recalls being in the courtroom of the county courthouse in Canton, Mississippi one morning in 1963, attending a bond hearing for a volunteer who had been arrested on a traffic violation, when C.O. Chinn walked in. Chinn was wearing a holstered pistol on his hip, which probably would not have raised an eyebrow if he had been white.

“Now C.O,” drawled the judge, “You know you can’t come in here wearing that gun.” Madison County Sheriff Billy Noble, was also in the courtroom; Chinn looked over at him, and responded, “As long as that S.O.B. over there is wearing his, I’m gonna keep mine.”


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williatw wrote:Firearms carry ban struck down in D.C.





Another victory for civil rights.
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Sheriff: Men beat man with bat but call police when he fires gun


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Johnny Moore and Joseph Killingsworth
COOS BAY, Ore. - Two homeless men who attacked a man with a baseball bat called police after the victim fired two rounds from a shotgun into the air, the Coos County Sheriff's Office said.

Law enforcement responded to a Stock Slough Lane home just before 3 a.m. Wednesday to a report of shots fired.

The sheriff said two transients - Joseph E. Killingsworth, 27, and Johnny R. Moore, 25 - reported being shot at with a shotgun.

The men had gone to a home on Stock Sough Lane with several aggressive dogs and a baseball bat and attacked a 23-year-old Coos Bay man, the sheriff said.

The two transients believed the man had reported them to the Bureau of Land Management as trespassers, the sheriff said.

Killingsworth and Moore took turns hitting the victim with the bat, causing extensive head, face and back injuries, the sheriff's office said.

In an attempt to escape after the attack, the victim grabbed a shotgun from his home and fired two rounds into the air, the sheriff said.

The two suspects fled to a nearby residence and called police to report that they had been shot at.

Law enforcement arrested Killingsworth and Moore and jailed them on charges of Assault II.

The victim was taken to Bay Area Hospital by ambulance for treatment.


http://www.kval.com/news/local/Sheriff- ... 73651.html

Looks like we had two near misses for possible winners of the Darwin Awards...warning shots are bul&s%it.

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Diogenes wrote:
williatw wrote:Firearms carry ban struck down in D.C.
Another victory for civil rights.
Another Civil Rights Victory possible in DC:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc- ... story.html

Congress has blocked previous efforts to change the city’s marijuana laws. In 1998, D.C. activists gathered signatures to place a measure legalizing medical marijuana on the ballot. Congress moved to stop city officials from counting the votes; a court challenge allowed the votes to be counted, showing 69 percent support for the law, but Congress continued to block funding to implement the program until 2009.

Burnett said he was not sure how Congress would ultimately react to the new legalization effort, but he said the vote “will send a message that D.C. is serious about reforming its marijuana laws.”
GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM A film by Michael W. Dean and Neema Vedadi.
A number of police and sheriffs are in the video.

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This spam above does not belong in this thread.
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GIThruster wrote:This spam above does not belong in this thread.
Depends on if you think you have a right to protect yourself.

Depends on whether you think you own your body or if the government owns it.

Depends on what you believe about Freedom.

All those points touch on guns. And the other issue. I prefer consistency, small government, and following the Constitution. Ever notice a Prohibition Amendment for that other stuff? Me either. But I'm sure you count yourself as a Constitutionalist. Probably in the same way our current President does.
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No, it does not depend on anything. Your druggie spam does not belong in this thread, and you are making yourself an asshole, force feeding your shit to everyone here, and making us unable to avoid your sick, childish rants. You are winning no converts to your sick position. You are merely alienating people and forcing them to disrespect you for your diseased mental condition.

Stop the spam. You've been asked many times by many people. Just stop the childish nonsense.
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MSimon wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
williatw wrote:Firearms carry ban struck down in D.C.
Another victory for civil rights.
Another Civil Rights Victory possible in DC:


Sure. The right to tamper with your brain chemistry is right up their with defending yourself against criminals and tyrants. They are exactly alike.
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Who will those SWAT teams be directed against once dopers are no longer a target?
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Diogenes wrote:Sure. The right to tamper with your brain chemistry is right up their with defending yourself against criminals and tyrants. They are exactly alike.
Alcohol much?
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And just so you don't miss it: viewtopic.php?p=114699#p114699

Drug criminalization was once a Progressive policy now ardently supported by conservatives. And of course it is being used quite effectively to split the right. And a faction of the right - instead of studying the issue - relies on the popular press and the government for its information. The same popular press they demonize on other issues. The same government they revile on other issues. Willful blindness that supports the very thing they oppose. Based on irrational fears. Well done mates.

The police state you wanted for THEM is going to be turned on whom when THEY are no longer a target? I think the recent IRS targeting might give you a hint.

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So Simon, you noticed that you hit rates on your pro-drug nonsense threads is down to accidental clicks and search bots. Now you have to branch your nonsense out to threads that it has no business in.

You really are alienating folks from this board with all the drug crap. I essentially do not read general threads anymore because of your silliness. It is very common for me to see that you have posted and then choose to ignore that thread these days. I then hit the "mark all read button" and move on. This way I don't give you read hits, which I know is very important to your self esteem, and I do not read (other than accidentally) your childish immature views on governance and drugs.

You are so far off base in actual understandings, because you cherry pick whatever suits your mood at the moment and use out of context work by others as your own "original" ideas. It is as transparent as clear glass. It also damages your credibility where you may actually know something.

Take it elsewhere please.
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