Trust me, you're not familiar at all. If what you say were true the Jews would have had no need of a tabernacle nor a temple, nor sacrifice of any kind. Obviously, you do not know what you're talking about.MSimon wrote:Uh. I'm kinda familiar with Judaism. It doesn't teach that. It is a Christian invention.GIThruster wrote:All of classical theism--including Judaism, Christianity and Islam--all teach in all their authentic forms, that all people are sinners (with the exception of the Son of God, Jesus Christ).kurt9 wrote:So let me get this straight. Say I'm someone who has always minded my own business and has never caused anyone any harm.
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You're Jewish? Who knew?GIThruster wrote:Trust me, you're not familiar at all. If what you say were true the Jews would have had no need of a tabernacle nor a temple, nor sacrifice of any kind. Obviously, you do not know what you're talking about.MSimon wrote:Uh. I'm kinda familiar with Judaism. It doesn't teach that. It is a Christian invention.
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MSimon wrote:Some drunk cop killers:
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=236309
http://aattp.org/drunk-armed-racists-sp ... cop-video/
https://www.vdare.com/posts/houston-dru ... -in-prison
Drunk cop does the shooting - claims "authority" http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=45154
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethleh ... itcho.html
http://billwarnermyblog.wordpress.com/2 ... -festival/
The above is proof we should ban alcohol, dentists, and cops.
Ha ha ha ha ha.... Tu quoque much? Bad behavior by one person does not justify bad behavior for another.
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Confirmed: Las Vegas Cop Killers Were Members of Far Left #Occupy Movement

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06 ... -movement/
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http://www.academia.org/cop-killer-was-a-pothead/


While living in Lafayette, Jerad and his wife Amanda took part in last November’s “Million Mask March” – a gathering of protesters from the Occupy movement, anarchists, and hacktivists.
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Miller is a classic case of a pothead, possibly with paranoid or psychotic tendencies. In a post on an Alex Jones website, Miller wrote, “I stand at a point in my life where I am on probation for selling marijuana. I take urine screens frequently and I am forced to take drug classes I do not need. Before I got arrested I had 2 jobs and was selling weed to my friends and family on the side. Now I cannot find a job.”
He had only himself to blame.
Miller wrote a post on May 13, 2013, after having to answer for a drug violation.
“Mark one up for freedom today,” he said. “I stood before a fascist judge today and implied that he was a Nazi. I told him I did not recognize his authority over me and reminded him that 2 states now have legalized weed for recreational use. I also informed him that now, since the fast and furious scandal, that continuing the war on drugs is treason. He said to me ‘I may not agree with the law, but it is my duty to enforce it.’ To which I replied ‘Nazis during the war criminal trials stated that they, were just following orders and enforcing the law, and we hung those people.’”
http://www.academia.org/cop-killer-was-a-pothead/

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You found one deranged pot head. I found a half dozen deranged alkys. And I could have given you hundreds. Probably thousands.Diogenes wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha.... Tu quoque much? Bad behavior by one person does not justify bad behavior for another.
But of course pot is a supreme danger and alcohol is just business as usual. Is the end of prohibition threatening your job?
Did you notice the drop in violent crime in Colorado with legalization? Another job killer. For police.
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MSimon wrote:You found one deranged pot head.Diogenes wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha.... Tu quoque much? Bad behavior by one person does not justify bad behavior for another.
Simon, this thread is demonstrable proof that i've found plenty more than one. As a matter of fact,
a random comment has made me aware of another one.

Eric never did anything by half-measure and marijuana was another example. Mission-driven. Not for Eric to get a few seeds, plant them and sell the product with no regard for quality. Deborah (Eric Rudolph's sister-in-law, at the time described) said that Eric would study High Times, the magazine devoted to marijuana, like a businessman doing product research. He was in it for the money and he was determined to grow the best pot around. That meant starting with the best possible seeds and in High Times, there were ads that hinted how you could get them. At least once he went to Amsterdam, where marijuana use was legal, to buy seeds that he then smuggled back into the States. Eric became something of an amateur geneticist, trying to breed the most powerful plants, even offering to buy back seeds that he might have inadvertently sold to customers. And apparently he succeeded in his efforts, earning two hundred dollars an ounce or more.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/25/schus ... index.html
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A former Army roommate of Eric Robert Rudolph says the accused bomber was an avid user of marijuana.
Roy Decker, 35, a resident of Mansfield, N.J., said in a telephone interview Tuesday night that he and Rudolph, both privates, roomed together at Fort Campbell, Ky., when they served in the 101st Airborne Division.
"We bonded pretty quickly because we didn't know anybody," Decker recalled. "He did smoke a lot of pot. Evidently he made a living of it."
Once Rudolph declined an offer to join Decker and another Army buddy for a night of drinking, Decker said. When Decker returned to the room they shared on the base, he found Rudolph with a pillowcase full of marijuana.
http://usmjparty.blogspot.com/2005/04/e ... d-pot.html
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And for every deranged pot head I can find you 1,000 crazed alkies.Diogenes wrote:Simon, this thread is demonstrable proof that i've found plenty more than one. As a matter of fact,MSimon wrote:You found one deranged pot head.Diogenes wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha.... Tu quoque much? Bad behavior by one person does not justify bad behavior for another.
a random comment has made me aware of another one.
Proof positive that we need alcohol prohibition.
BTW you may have missed it but ending pot prohibition in Colorado has reduced crime.
Colorado Crime Rates Down 14.6% Since Legalizing Marijuana
You are big on anecdotes. I prefer statistics. But I understand. All you have is events.According to data from the Denver Police Department, violent crime (including homicide, sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated assault) fell by 6.9% in the first quarter of 2014, compared with the same period in 2013. Property crime (including burglary, larceny, auto theft, theft from motor vehicle and arson) dropped by 11.1%.
A study looking at the legalization of medical marijuana nationwide, published late last month in the journal PLOS ONE, found that the trend holds: Not only does medical marijuana legalization not correlate with an uptick in crime, researchers from the University of Texas at Dallas argue it may actually reduce it.
http://www.msnbc.com/all/does-marijuana ... crime-rate
There are now 31 States with Medical Marijuana laws. Of that number 9 have laws that allow it only for one specific condition. Childhood/adult epilepsy. The end point of med pot is legalization generally. BTW that is what ended Federal Alcohol Prohibition. The States wouldn't enforce it.
Prohibition is going where it belongs. In the dust bin of history. A lot of drug warriors are going to lose their jobs.
Most unfortunate.
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Makes you wonder how the government is going to fulfill its end of the prison contracts. 90% occupancy without the hundred of thousands of pot related inmates...
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I think I grasp the concept. "Righteousness" is essentially a system of law that is designed to be so byzantine, so complex, that it is not physically possible to go about living one's life on a day to day basis without violating it. Hence, the necessity to "be forgiven" by the authorities (god, in the case of the Abrahamic religions).GIThruster wrote:But to answer your question, it is a loaded question. All of classical theism--including Judaism, Christianity and Islam--all teach in all their authentic forms, that all people are sinners (with the exception of the Son of God, Jesus Christ). All "fall short of the glory of God". So the very premise you site does not exist as an option.kurt9 wrote:So let me get this straight. Say I'm someone who has always minded my own business and has never caused anyone any harm.
I think what you don't get is the whole notion of "righteousness" as a pure standard none of us reach, and that is the basis for all doctrine on this subject.
This actually reminds me of stories I've heard about the former Soviet Union, where the laws were deliberately made such that it was impossible to go about one's daily life without violating one or more of them. This, of course, gave the authorities the ability to arrest you anytime they wanted, for any reason whatsoever. Our own federal government seems to be trending in this direction.
A system of morality that makes it impossible to be "moral" while living a day to day life as a reasonable person is meaningless.
Viewed from this perspective, I see little conceptual difference between the Abrahamic religions and the secular totalitarian ideologies of Nazism and Soviet Communism. I think a true commitment to liberty and individual self-ownership requires the rejection of monopoly-authoritarianism in any and all forms.
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I don't condone his murderous spree by any means....but I would pose the question: If pot was legal not illegal would the murders have taken place? No arrest, no criminal record, no perceived inability to find work because of such, no jail; no resulting grudge against law enforcement....culminating in the resulting murders. If pot were legal would he just be another kook...maybe his kookiness caused/exacerbated because of drug use maybe not; but not a murderer or criminal?Diogenes wrote:Miller is a classic case of a pothead, possibly with paranoid or psychotic tendencies. In a post on an Alex Jones website, Miller wrote, “I stand at a point in my life where I am on probation for selling marijuana. I take urine screens frequently and I am forced to take drug classes I do not need. Before I got arrested I had 2 jobs and was selling weed to my friends and family on the side. Now I cannot find a job.”
He had only himself to blame.
Miller wrote a post on May 13, 2013, after having to answer for a drug violation.
“Mark one up for freedom today,” he said. “I stood before a fascist judge today and implied that he was a Nazi. I told him I did not recognize his authority over me and reminded him that 2 states now have legalized weed for recreational use. I also informed him that now, since the fast and furious scandal, that continuing the war on drugs is treason. He said to me ‘I may not agree with the law, but it is my duty to enforce it.’ To which I replied ‘Nazis during the war criminal trials stated that they, were just following orders and enforcing the law, and we hung those people.’”
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Perhaps the key factor in these killings is the fact that the perps were of far-left political ideology and not so much that they smoked pot. Of course the skank-stream media tried to pin this on "far right" extremists. ALL of the recent political violence in the past 10 years has been caused by far-left ideologues, even though the skank-stream media has tried to blame the right every single time.
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FDA To Evaluate Marijuana For Potential Reclassification As Less Dangerous Drug
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/2 ... d%3D492959
The feds could actually soften their stance a little when it comes to weed.
The Food and Drug Administration is reviewing the medical evidence surrounding the safety and effectiveness of marijuana, a process that could lead to the agency downgrading the drug's current status as a Schedule I drug, the most dangerous classification.
FDA Press Officer Jeff Ventura described the review process, which is being completed at the request of the Drug Enforcement Agency, to The Huffington Post.
"FDA conducts for Health and Human Services a scientific and medical analysis of the drug under consideration, which is currently ongoing," Ventura said. "HHS then recommends to DEA that the drug be placed in a given schedule. DEA considers HHS’ analysis, conducts its own assessment, and makes a final scheduling proposal in the form of a proposed rule."
The FDA could not confirm how long the review process would take.
The U.S. has five "schedules" for drugs or chemicals that can be used to make drugs. Schedule I is reserved for drugs that the DEA considers to have the highest potential for abuse and no "current accepted medical use." Marijuana has been classified as Schedule I for decades, along with other substances like heroin and LSD. Rescheduling marijuana would not make it legal, but a lower schedule could potentially ease restrictions on research into the drug and make banks less wary of offering financial services to state-legal marijuana businesses. It could also allow those businesses to make some traditional tax deductions.
Federal authorities have long been accused of only funding marijuana research that focuses on the potential negative effects of the substance. The DEA has also been accused of not acting quickly enough when petitioned to reschedule marijuana, and for obstructing science around the drug.
Meanwhile, a number of recent studies have added to the growing body of research showing the medical potential of cannabis. Purified forms may attack some forms of aggressive cancer. Studies have tied marijuana use to blood sugar control and slowing the spread of HIV. One study found that legalization of the plant for medical purposes may even lead to lower suicide rates.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/2 ... d%3D492959
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What I found interesting was that until cannabis became legal for purchase in one U.S. state the interstate commerce laws could not apply in the rest of the country. The other was that cannabis is only defined as a weed by USDA, there's a whole legal definition minefield around what it actually is. The very best thing a person can do if arrested on a pot charge is reply that they do not understand the charges against them.
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/interview-f ... nabis-191/
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Police: Teen killed woman over $5 pot dispute
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The teen is accused of shooting 20-year-old Andrea Lafon in the head as she sat in a car in a North Las Vegas neighborhood. Lafon died the next day.
A witness told police that Lafon refused to let the teen pay $35 for $40 worth of marijuana.
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