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[ladajo]

Yeah, because this is the first administration where mistakes like these were made by the army...
Also, Obama does not sign off on the information given to the press. Sorry guys, not a huge fan of Obama, but this is ridiculous.

You miss the point.

The top guy sets the game rules for everyone below. This mistake is a symptom of the professional climate within the Executive Office. Just as it would be anywhere it happened. That climate is created and mantained by the boss. Period.
That is why bosses are responsible for the actions of their people.
Am I saying Obama is personally at fault and maliciously released the name. No.
What I am saying is that he created conditions for it to happen. And HE must fix them immediately (too late...) in order to ensure the message gets across. The "everyone is a winner, we all make mistakes" mentality does not cut it when you are messing with people's lives.

Dragging in what the army did is irrelevant. Obamainc could have stopped the release if they were in the game, even just a little.
I say again, it was a hack mistake by a group of hacks.
I also say again that someone in the army will be held to task for their part. The only way that wouldn't happen is if they passed the list on the proper systems with the proper protocals and Obamainc spilled it.
I would find it very hard to believe that someone on the army side would list the Station Chief in an UNCLASS format. If they did, it probably came from State that way, they added the army names and passed it on is my guess.
But again, irrelevant to the Obamainc error and responsibility.

Your argument revolves around the idea that if the guy in front of you runs over and kills someone, it is okay for you to do it, because he already did and the guy is already dead. That is silly, and you are wrong.

[GIThruster]

I say again, it was a hack mistake by a group of hacks.

This is to be expected, however. We're talking about the guy who addressed the country on national TV and spoke about the "Marine corpse" instead of corps. Military culture is as foreign to him as could be and The trouble is, since he surrounds himself only with people from that culture, he is indeed just as the Dems are now saying, "disconnected" from the nation. That's what happens when you spend your life demonizing our military--you are in no way qualified to lead it.

[paperburn1]

Here is a question, How many in the Obama administration have military experience as compared to other presidents. anybody know off hand.

[ladajo]

I wanna say it is about 2ish of 24. Technically 3.
Off the top of my head;
Shinseki, Kerry, Hagel.
Hagel is light on experience as is Kerry. Both are Vietnam only. Hagel was an army? Sargeant, and Kerry was Mr. Swift Boats J.O. of the year.
Shinseki is the only career guy.
To be fair to Kerry and Hagel, they did serve. And it was combat.

I don't really know all that much about most of the others.