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http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-kidnapp ... d=20839241
"[The family] converged on a piece of property about a mile from where the car was found," Judice said. "One of the family members heard what he thought was a scream."

Arceneaux's cousin approached the home, kicked in the door in and entered, Judice said. Inside, he found Thomas with the woman. Thomas then began stabbing Arceneaux, and a confrontation ensued.

"The cousin, who was armed, began firing several shots at Thomas," Judice said. "After a couple of shots, [Arceneaux] was able to get free of him and they escorted her out of the house."
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Hope that pic in your link wasn't his actual firearm (probably not). Looked like a 5-shooter revolver, wouldn't be my first choice against four men breaking into my house.

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williatw wrote:
Hope that pic in your link wasn't his actual firearm (probably not). Looked like a 5-shooter revolver, wouldn't be my first choice against four men breaking into my house.
Yes, it's an S&W Airweight. Meant for concealed carry. Only two of the bandits entered the house however, and the Airweight can fire five Glaser Safety Slug .38+p loads which makes it a very formidable weapon at close range at almost 500 lbs. of prefranged ammo. Almost as powerful as some .357 mag loads and a hit anywhere in the torus guaranteed to stop a bad guy.

For its size and weight there are almost no other weapons so powerful.
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GIThruster wrote:
williatw wrote:
Hope that pic in your link wasn't his actual firearm (probably not). Looked like a 5-shooter revolver, wouldn't be my first choice against four men breaking into my house.
Yes, it's an S&W Airweight. Meant for concealed carry. Only two of the bandits entered the house however, and the Airweight can fire five Glaser Safety Slug .38+p loads which makes it a very formidable weapon at close range at almost 500 lbs. of prefranged ammo. Almost as powerful as some .357 mag loads and a hit anywhere in the torus guaranteed to stop a bad guy.

For its size and weight there are almost no other weapons so powerful.
Well I suppose the best gun in a gunfight is the one you actually have in your possession....still would want more than 5 shots, he was just lucky only one of them had a gun and only two of them entered the house. My CCW carry pistol is a Glock 26, loaded with 9mm +p Corbon 115 grain JHP ammo. Pistol came with two 10 round magazines. I subsequently ordered a couple of 12 round magazines, which is what I usually carry with it. Still yours might make a good back-up piece, less can go wrong with a revolver than a semi-auto.

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Glock 26 is nice for what it is, but if you're carrying it for personal defense, I recommend the Lasermax modification. The Glock sights are useless in the dark and 9 times out of 10 if you need your gun, it will be dark out. Bad guys tend to do their bad things mostly at night. The Laser makes the weapon easy to target well, without using the sights at all.

The mod leaves nothing to hang up and no additional bits to strap on. Pretty nifty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwRmpcWJTVc
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Kept waiting for the gun to go off.
CLEAR THE DAMNED WEAPON. (even if just to show the audience how to properly handle a gun)

maybe we will hear about him in the future
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Actor Richard Dreyfuss: "The NRA is Not the Enemy, They Should Be Thought of as Heroes"


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"I don't think the NRA is a villian," Dreyfuss said. "I think we should turn this over to the people who are expert at this and the original mandate of the NRA was to train responsible gun ownership and the NRA should handle it. They should train excellence in gun ownership."

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... wsCarousel


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Diogenes wrote:Actor Richard Dreyfuss: "The NRA is Not the Enemy, They Should Be Thought of as Heroes"
"I don't think the NRA is a villian," Dreyfuss said. "I think we should turn this over to the people who are expert at this and the original mandate of the NRA was to train responsible gun ownership and the NRA should handle it. They should train excellence in gun ownership."

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... wsCarousel


Refreshing position for someone from the Acting industry.
Interesting...especially considering the Hollywood actor mouthpiece. I even agree with the part about Wayne LaPierre being a hero, he is standing up for our gun rights. One issue, his (Dreyfuss's) opinion about the ambiguity of the wording of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Maybe arguably, to modern ears it sounds "ambiguous", but if you read the Federalist Papers on the issue the framer's thoughts were clear as to its purpose, ultimate deterrence against tyranny. From my state of Ohio’s constitutions version of the 2nd amendment:

§ 1.04 Bearing arms; standing armies; military powers (1851)
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The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.


http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/cons ... Section=04

Amazing how much our European friends seem to buy lock, stock, and barrel into the idea of civil disarmament, i.e. gun control. One would think being conquered 1st by the Nazi's (western europe) and then "liberated" by the Soviets (eastern europe who stayed on several decades occupying) would have taught them the folly of being disarmed and totally dependent on the gov for your safety/security. The idea of the very countries who owe their freedom to armed Americans looking disdainfully at us and regarding themselves as "morally superior" and more "civilized" (Piers Morgan). And of course the example of the well-armed Swiss who have not been conquered or needed "liberated" by anyone is completely lost on them.

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Clerk tells robbers 'my gun is bigger'


http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/nationa ... _partners2

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williatw wrote:
Interesting...especially considering the Hollywood actor mouthpiece. I even agree with the part about Wayne LaPierre being a hero, he is standing up for our gun rights. One issue, his (Dreyfuss's) opinion about the ambiguity of the wording of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Maybe arguably, to modern ears it sounds "ambiguous", but if you read the Federalist Papers on the issue the framer's thoughts were clear as to its purpose, ultimate deterrence against tyranny. From my state of Ohio’s constitutions version of the 2nd amendment:

§ 1.04 Bearing arms; standing armies; military powers (1851)
[ View Article Table of Contents ]

The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.


http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/cons ... Section=04

Exactly right. The dominant purpose was to allow people to oppose oppression from a powerful central government. It was a Check on Tyranny. I think people are slowly waking up to the fact that guns are not bad, and because evil people will not put them aside, good people dare not.







williatw wrote: Amazing how much our European friends seem to buy lock, stock, and barrel into the idea of civil disarmament, i.e. gun control. One would think being conquered 1st by the Nazi's (western europe) and then "liberated" by the Soviets (eastern europe who stayed on several decades occupying) would have taught them the folly of being disarmed and totally dependent on the gov for your safety/security. The idea of the very countries who owe their freedom to armed Americans looking disdainfully at us and regarding themselves as "morally superior" and more "civilized" (Piers Morgan). And of course the example of the well-armed Swiss who have not been conquered or needed "liberated" by anyone is completely lost on them.

I shake my head every time I think about Europe. WTF has happened to them? Did all the intelligent ones get killed in the last two major wars, and all that were left alive to procreate were the stupid dumb shits? And it is their progeny that has sunk to this level of insanity?


Pacifist, Socialist P*ssies is what they have become. It would appear to me that they are doomed. What the crime explosion won't get, the Islamist incursion will. That and the PC mafia.
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williatw wrote:Clerk tells robbers 'my gun is bigger'


http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/nationa ... _partners2



"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine
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George Zimmerman's Girlfriend Wants Assault Charges Dropped

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/0 ... 15025.html


Zimmerman is asking a judge to change the terms of his bond so he can have contact with the girlfriend he's accused of assaulting.

Zimmerman on Monday filed an affidavit from his girlfriend that says she doesn't want him charged with aggravated assault, battery and criminal mischief.

In the signed affidavit, Samantha Scheibe says she hasn't been coerced into the request. She says detectives misinterpreted what she said. In the affidavit, she calls Zimmerman "my boyfriend."

Zimmerman was arrested last month after Scheibe accused him in a call to 911 of pointing a gun at her, smashing a coffee table and pushing her outside.

Prosecutors could continue with the case despite Scheibe's request.

Zimmerman was acquitted of any crime last summer in the shooting death of teen Trayvon Martin.

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http://www.humanevents.com/2014/01/03/s ... r-murders/

Study shows concealed-carry laws result in fewer murders

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Yet another bit of data to mull over in the gun-control wars, courtesy of Quinnipiac University’s Mark Gius:


The purpose of the present study is to determine the effects of state-level assault weapons bans and concealed weapons laws on state-level murder rates. Using data for the period 1980 to 2009 and controlling for state and year fixed effects, the results of the present study suggest that states with restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related murder rates than other states. It was also found that assault weapons bans did not significantly affect murder rates at the state level. These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level. The results of this study are consistent with some prior research in this area, most notably Lott and Mustard (1997).
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Laundromat owner, 90, scares off robber with gun


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http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/new ... gun/ncY3g/

DAYTON — The 90-year-old owner of an East Fifth Street laundromat scared off a would be robber on Monday evening, pulling a gun when the young man demanded cash from the register.

George Hicks said he wasn't scared during the confrontation at the R & J Laundromat and will be ready if the robber ever comes back.

"Why get scared? I've got the gun and he's running," he said Tuesday. "It was just funny." Hicks said he's owned the laundromat for about 12 years.
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