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Jccarlton
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95% of Climate model run off the rails

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Sigh.

Roy Spencer has been discredited in the scientific literature:
Sourcewatch wrote: Outcome: Journal editor says "it should not have been published", resigns

In Sept 2011 Remote Sensing editor-in-chief Wolfgang Wagner resigned, saying that the paper should not have been published - that while "[peer review is] supposed to be able to identify fundamental methodological errors or false claims (…) the paper by Spencer and Braswell that was recently published in Remote Sensing is most likely problematic in both aspects and should therefore not have been published" - and noting that while "minority views are and should be welcomed in the scientific literature...[this] does not mean that long refuted arguments should be able to keep being published".
Link: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Roy_Spencer

The man is a liar. He got an editor fired for supporting publishing his article, which had "fundamental methodological errors."
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.

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Old news:
Spencer got something published that the "team" didn't like and they smashed the editor.:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/02/b ... ell-paper/
Not something they haven't done before.

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Jccarlton wrote:Old news:
Spencer got something published that the "team" didn't like and they smashed the editor.:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/02/b ... ell-paper/
Not something they haven't done before.
Baez wrote: 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.
Next?

I mean, dude, a five-pointer is one thing but the forty-pointer ones are the Big Smack.
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.

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Re: 95% of Climate model run off the rails

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Schneibster wrote:
Jccarlton wrote:Old news:
Spencer got something published that the "team" didn't like and they smashed the editor.:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/02/b ... ell-paper/
Not something they haven't done before.
Baez wrote: 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.
Next?

I mean, dude, a five-pointer is one thing but the forty-pointer ones are the Big Smack.
I'm not claiming anything. Climategate was the gift that never stopped giving:
http://newzealandclimatechange.wordpres ... er-review/
You with people like that in charge, climate science has too much ego and no science. If the consequences of the policies they advocate were not so serious it would be enough to make sure that you bought up popcorn stocks.

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Jccarlton wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Jccarlton wrote:Old news:
Spencer got something published that the "team" didn't like and they smashed the editor.:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/02/b ... ell-paper/
Not something they haven't done before.
Baez wrote: 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.
Next?

I mean, dude, a five-pointer is one thing but the forty-pointer ones are the Big Smack.
I'm not claiming anything. Climategate was the gift that never stopped giving:
http://newzealandclimatechange.wordpres ... er-review/
Climategate was a joke. There wasn't anything Watergate-like about it. It was trumped up and faked. I've made lots of nasty comments about deniers; you're just proving they're true.
Jccarlton wrote:You with people like that in charge, climate science has too much ego and no science.
Actually, 14000 to 25.

On Earth.
Jccarlton wrote:If the consequences of the policies they advocate were not so serious it would be enough to make sure that you bought up popcorn stocks.
...stocks? Wut?

errr, you do understand we're talking about stuff that's already happening, for example this is the hottest decade on record, right?

Not one of your stock scams?

Unbelievable. Talk about self-centered...
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The True Global Warming Crisis: The Fibs Underlying The Theory



As Professor of Meteorology Dr. Richard Lindzen at MIT’s Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences observed, “The latest IPCC report truly sank to the level of hilarious incoherence – it is quite amazing to see the contortions the IPCC has to go through in order to keep the international climate agenda going.” The banner claim of this 2013 Summary for Policymakers (AR5) release is that “Human influence is extremely likely to be dominant cause of observed warming since the middle of the last century.”
As Mark Twain observed, “There are liars, darn liars, and statisticians.” Perhaps if he were alive today and followed political manipulations of science by the U.N.’s IPCC, he would add one more category…”demagogues”.

Lowering the scientific bar, AR5 even surpasses their former reports in statements ranging from patently dishonest, to artfully misleading. For example, here are but a few:


http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2 ... he-theory/
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —

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Diogenes wrote:The True Global Warming Crisis: The Fibs Underlying The Theory



As Professor of Meteorology Dr. Richard Lindzen
We already did Lindzen. He's a meteorology professor, not a climate physicist.
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.

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