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Jccarlton
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This Is interesting in perspective

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In light of the recent actions of a commenter, this sort of put things in perspective:
http://www.samizdata.net/2013/10/the-big-cause-2/

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Re: This Is interesting in perspective

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Jccarlton wrote:In light of the recent actions of a commenter, this sort of put things in perspective:
http://www.samizdata.net/2013/10/the-big-cause-2/
Samizdat?

Seriously?

National Enquirer is definitely next.

What're you gonna do, prove I'm Bat-Boy?

Oh and Baez says:
Samizdat wrote:Unfortunately, it will not be until long after the worst Alarmists are dead that they will finally be grouped with the Malthusians and Lysenkoists as they deserve.
Baez wrote:40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)
Next?
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.

Jccarlton
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Schneibster wrote:
Jccarlton wrote:In light of the recent actions of a commenter, this sort of put things in perspective:
http://www.samizdata.net/2013/10/the-big-cause-2/
Samizdat?

Seriously?

National Enquirer is definitely next.

What're you gonna do, prove I'm Bat-Boy?

Oh and Baez says:
Samizdat wrote:Unfortunately, it will not be until long after the worst Alarmists are dead that they will finally be grouped with the Malthusians and Lysenkoists as they deserve.
Baez wrote:40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)
Next?
You know, if you are going to quote something it helps to provide links and save people's time.:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
As for crackpots, you have obviously not worked in a big physics lab.:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

Shooting light through a wall. It doesn't get more crackpot than that. This is a real experiment. Free electron laser beam on the left, detect or on the right. Looking for evidence of dark matter. As for the quote from Samizdat, well time will tell, but it doesn't look good for the AGW crowd right now.

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Re: This Is interesting in perspective

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Jccarlton wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Jccarlton wrote:In light of the recent actions of a commenter, this sort of put things in perspective:
http://www.samizdata.net/2013/10/the-big-cause-2/
Samizdat?

Seriously?

National Enquirer is definitely next.

What're you gonna do, prove I'm Bat-Boy?

Oh and Baez says:
Samizdat wrote:Unfortunately, it will not be until long after the worst Alarmists are dead that they will finally be grouped with the Malthusians and Lysenkoists as they deserve.
Baez wrote:40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)
Next?
You know, if you are going to quote something it helps to provide links and save people's time.:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
It was on your other thread. I figured you were smarter than the average nematode. My bad.
Jccarlton wrote:As for crackpots, you have obviously not worked in a big physics lab.:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

Shooting light through a wall. It doesn't get more crackpot than that. This is a real experiment. Free electron laser beam on the left, detect or on the right. Looking for evidence of dark matter. As for the quote from Samizdat, well time will tell, but it doesn't look good for the AGW crowd right now.
No, son, time won't tell. Time already told. You weren't listening. I haven't said anything worth 40 points on the crackpot index. Just sayin'.

I have a link somewhere to a new technology that can literally see around a corner. It rotates the phase of a light detector and so sweeps for photons returning from an object that's around a corner, and reconstructs them into an image.

As far as quantum mechanics, you can figure out most everything you need to know, looking at a window at night, and then again during the day. Quantum mechanics answers a simple question: how do the photons decide whether to bounce off the window or go through?

None of this is particularly complicated. Of course if you want to make precise numeric predictions, then there is a huge load of math you need to know. But amateurs like us don't need all that; we just want to know what they predict. And the answers have been coming in hand over fist since the 1990s, though not so much since 2000. And even less since the shutdown.

This makes me think Republicans are no friends of the truth. They keep trying to suppress it.
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.

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You obviously can't see the point. Real science is done by people who most would think are crackpots. Hell, in my personal experience, if you aren't at least 60 points on your little scale, you're not even in the game. That's part of what makes real science fun. If you think that quantum physics are all figured boy do you have a lot to learn.

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Jccarlton wrote:You obviously can't see the point. Real science is done by people who most would think are crackpots. Hell, in my personal experience, if you aren't at least 60 points on your little scale, you're not even in the game. That's part of what makes real science fun. If you think that quantum physics are all figured boy do you have a lot to learn.
Errr, you really don't understand what it meant when they found the Higgs with the LHC, did you?

Meanwhile, what's any of this got to do with science? They know where the holes are, they're looking. That's how come there's more than one experiment running off the beam line of the LHC.

But we've learned an absolutely incredible amount from the LHC, from WMAP, from COBE, and from the Hubble.

Bandwidth warning, full-size Hubble image:
http://realitypod.com/wp-content/upload ... eation.jpg

Can you look at The Pillars of Creation, probably the most famous Hubble shot, and believe we don't know where the Sun and the planets came from?

I see people here denying it, pretending the universe is six thousand years old. More silliness. What's the point of this?
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.

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