Between tokes, Assaf finds the time to share amusing thoughts about marijuana's contribution to the Jewish people's unity. "For years, we settlers have been using the slogan 'Settle in the hearts.' If only we had known that it is much easier to settle in the lungs, everything would have been much easier.
"You see here young people who can speak the same language and bridge ideological gaps. They always bring here all kinds of Tel Avivians to drink the wine and enjoy the view, but they just come and go. The shortage in the center has caused them to come and want to stay, at least for the night, because it's difficult to drive home afterwards."
Settlers In Israel Making Friends With Marijuana
Settlers In Israel Making Friends With Marijuana
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MSimon wrote:http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 90,00.html
Between tokes, Assaf finds the time to share amusing thoughts about marijuana's contribution to the Jewish people's unity. "For years, we settlers have been using the slogan 'Settle in the hearts.' If only we had known that it is much easier to settle in the lungs, everything would have been much easier.
"You see here young people who can speak the same language and bridge ideological gaps. They always bring here all kinds of Tel Avivians to drink the wine and enjoy the view, but they just come and go. The shortage in the center has caused them to come and want to stay, at least for the night, because it's difficult to drive home afterwards."
MSIMON you must know by now that I think the war on drugs is a crock of excrement...but come on now, if I was a young Israeli, don't think I need to be smoking weed. My time would better be spent on the rifle range, or practicing Krav Maga, etc. I mean six million jews surounded on all sides by 100's of millions of Arabs who let's say charitably don't acknowlege my right to exist if in fact they even recognize my basic humanity. Being mellow and taking it easy would not be a luxury I could afford.
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Ah. Then you are unfamiliar with this:
Mariajuana Smoking in Panama - The Military Surgeon Volume 73 - July-December 1933
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... anama1.htm
And BTW political unity is nothing to be sniffed at.
And another thought. Drunk on alcohol.
Further - a person ready ALL the time is ready none of the time.
I just thought it funny mostly though. How the far right (not quite to looney) in Israel differs from the far right in America.
Mariajuana Smoking in Panama - The Military Surgeon Volume 73 - July-December 1933
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lib ... anama1.htm
And BTW political unity is nothing to be sniffed at.
And another thought. Drunk on alcohol.
Further - a person ready ALL the time is ready none of the time.
I just thought it funny mostly though. How the far right (not quite to looney) in Israel differs from the far right in America.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
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Ready all the time = burnt out in short order
You can do anything you want with laws except make Americans obey them. | What I want to do is to look up S. . . . I call him the Schadenfreudean Man.
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9 other drugs that were legal in 1900s but are now not, should we bring these back as well?
9. Opium
Its usage is much older, but this form of dried juice from the opium poppy became popular in the United States during the 19th Century. Back then, it was freely prescribed by doctors and even available at grocery stores. Chinese laborers had brought the practice of opium smoking to the West during the mid-nineteenth century, and laudanum, a solution of opium and alcohol, was also popular. Opium was often given to women to treat menstrual cramps and to infants to help with teething pain. Around the turn of the 20th Century, most opium addicts were older women.
San Francisco first banned opium dens in 1875, and California restricted opium possession in 1907. The 1914 Harrison Narcotics Tax Act effectively outlawed the drug throughout America. Today, drugs derived from the opium poppy, such as morphine and codeine, are legal but heavily restricted.
8. Methamphetamine
Nowadays a popular target for public service announcements, methamphetamine was first created by a Japanese chemist in 1893. In 1944, it was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in the US to treat a selection of medical conditions including narcolepsy, alcoholism, mild depression, and even seasonal allergies. By the 1950s, this legal medication had become popular under the name of Methedrine, but abuse had also become common. Passed in 1970, the Controlled Substances Act severely restricted its usage, although meth is still available under the name of Desoxyn for very limited uses.
Bad news for the congested: since the 1980s, there have also been strict crackdowns on several legal cold-and-flu drugs that can be used to produce methamphetamine, like ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. These previously over-the-counter medications now often require ID to purchase.
7. Peyote
Mescaline, a hallucinogenic chemical derived from the peyote cactus, has been used by Native American religious ceremonies for thousands of years. Peyote use was outlawed in several US states in the 1920s and 30s, but remained legal in most of the US throughout the 1960s and was often shipped interstate to interested parties.
Mescaline was restricted by Congress under the 1970 Controlled Substances Act. Currently, members of the federally-recognized Native American Church are exempt from criminal penalties for peyote use, as long as further state restrictions do not apply.
6. Cocaine
Many famous people of the early 20th century, including Sigmund Freud and the Pope, were cocaine users. Although cocaine is derived from the coca plant, which has been in use for at least 3000 years, its modern incarnation only appeared around the 1860s. Available in many forms, including dissolved into wine, it was prescribed by doctors to treat depression and morphine addiction.
In America, it was popular as a treatment for coughs and pain, and was famously included in early versions of Coca-Cola. Although technically restricted by the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act in 1914, prosecution for cocaine usage was rare, and only became common after it was listed a controlled substance in 1970.
5. LSD
The psychedelic effects of LSD, or ‘acid’, were discovered by accident in 1943, after the Swiss scientist who invented the chemical accidentally absorbed some through his skin. During the 1950s the US Army, along with the CIA, researched the uses of LSD as a potential ‘truth drug’ for use in brainwashing. Their experiments involved giving LSD to everyone from CIA agents to prostitutes, and recording the results. Soon, psychiatrists also became interested in its potential therapeutic benefits. Although LSD was still being imported from Switzerland at this time, the drug’s formula could be purchased for a small sum from the US patent office, after which a user could synthesize LSD himself.
In 1966, after widespread abuse and ill-effects caused in part by people making the drug incorrectly, LSD was outlawed in California. In 1970, it was listed by Congress as a Schedule I substance, meaning it has no recognized medicinal or therapeutic uses.
4. GHB
Famous these days as a ‘date rape’ drug, GHB is a naturally-occurring neurochemical that produces a depressant, pain-relieving effect. A lab-made version was synthesized in the 1960s and was used widely in Europe as an anesthetic, particularly in childbirth. In the 1980s, it became popular among body builders as a legal sleep aid, and eventually as a legal recreational drug. After GHB became associated with abuse and accidental deaths, the FDA cracked down on its sale in 1990. It was not listed federally as a controlled substance (illegal to possess as well as to sell) until 2000 when, like LSD, it became a Schedule 1 drug. However, GHB has recently been approved as a heavily-controlled treatment for narcolepsy.
3. Magic Mushrooms
Also known as shrooms, magic mushrooms are fungi native to Asia and the Americas that contain psilocybin, a compound that produces an LSD-like effect in users. Magic mushrooms have been in use for millennia, but as recently as the early 20th century Western academics were still arguing whether or not they existed. Use among Westerners was popularized in the 1950s after an article on the subject appeared in Life Magazine. In the 1960s, psychologist Timothy Leary and many others promoted these mushrooms for psychological use.
Possession of psilocybin-containing mushrooms was outlawed in 1968. However, since the mushroom spores do not contain psilocybin, spores are still legal in most states.
2. Ecstasy
MDMA, or ecstasy, was legal in the United States as recently as 1984. Synthesized and patented in 1912 by a chemist working for pharmaceutical company Merck, it was largely forgotten until the mid 1970s, when Berkeley professor Alexander Shulgin popularized it for use in psychotherapy. Shulgin claimed that it could help psychiatric patients achieve greater introspection and more openness with their therapists. Ecstasy also became popular in non-therapeutic settings, particularly nightclubs, and in 1985 was put under an ‘emergency ban’ and became a Schedule I controlled drug.
1. Heroin
First synthesized in 1874, heroin was first created as a non-addictive alternative to morphine. The word ‘heroin’ is actually a brand name created by the pharmaceutical company that invented it, Bayer. In the early 20th century, it was also marketed in the US as a treatment for coughs and as a kind of old-fashioned methadone program for morphine users.
Unfortunately, the drug turned out to be more addictive than morphine. Heroin used to be legal, until it became apparent that it is more addictive than morphine, and can cause opiate withdrawal symptoms when its use is abruptly stopped. After hundreds of thousands of Americans saw their sore throats relieved only to be replaced with crippling addiction and long-term stays at a drug rehab program; heroin usage was severely restricted in the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act of 1914, and outlawed altogether in 1924.
Read more: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-drugs-tha ... z2cUbATInZ
9. Opium
Its usage is much older, but this form of dried juice from the opium poppy became popular in the United States during the 19th Century. Back then, it was freely prescribed by doctors and even available at grocery stores. Chinese laborers had brought the practice of opium smoking to the West during the mid-nineteenth century, and laudanum, a solution of opium and alcohol, was also popular. Opium was often given to women to treat menstrual cramps and to infants to help with teething pain. Around the turn of the 20th Century, most opium addicts were older women.
San Francisco first banned opium dens in 1875, and California restricted opium possession in 1907. The 1914 Harrison Narcotics Tax Act effectively outlawed the drug throughout America. Today, drugs derived from the opium poppy, such as morphine and codeine, are legal but heavily restricted.
8. Methamphetamine
Nowadays a popular target for public service announcements, methamphetamine was first created by a Japanese chemist in 1893. In 1944, it was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in the US to treat a selection of medical conditions including narcolepsy, alcoholism, mild depression, and even seasonal allergies. By the 1950s, this legal medication had become popular under the name of Methedrine, but abuse had also become common. Passed in 1970, the Controlled Substances Act severely restricted its usage, although meth is still available under the name of Desoxyn for very limited uses.
Bad news for the congested: since the 1980s, there have also been strict crackdowns on several legal cold-and-flu drugs that can be used to produce methamphetamine, like ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. These previously over-the-counter medications now often require ID to purchase.
7. Peyote
Mescaline, a hallucinogenic chemical derived from the peyote cactus, has been used by Native American religious ceremonies for thousands of years. Peyote use was outlawed in several US states in the 1920s and 30s, but remained legal in most of the US throughout the 1960s and was often shipped interstate to interested parties.
Mescaline was restricted by Congress under the 1970 Controlled Substances Act. Currently, members of the federally-recognized Native American Church are exempt from criminal penalties for peyote use, as long as further state restrictions do not apply.
6. Cocaine
Many famous people of the early 20th century, including Sigmund Freud and the Pope, were cocaine users. Although cocaine is derived from the coca plant, which has been in use for at least 3000 years, its modern incarnation only appeared around the 1860s. Available in many forms, including dissolved into wine, it was prescribed by doctors to treat depression and morphine addiction.
In America, it was popular as a treatment for coughs and pain, and was famously included in early versions of Coca-Cola. Although technically restricted by the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act in 1914, prosecution for cocaine usage was rare, and only became common after it was listed a controlled substance in 1970.
5. LSD
The psychedelic effects of LSD, or ‘acid’, were discovered by accident in 1943, after the Swiss scientist who invented the chemical accidentally absorbed some through his skin. During the 1950s the US Army, along with the CIA, researched the uses of LSD as a potential ‘truth drug’ for use in brainwashing. Their experiments involved giving LSD to everyone from CIA agents to prostitutes, and recording the results. Soon, psychiatrists also became interested in its potential therapeutic benefits. Although LSD was still being imported from Switzerland at this time, the drug’s formula could be purchased for a small sum from the US patent office, after which a user could synthesize LSD himself.
In 1966, after widespread abuse and ill-effects caused in part by people making the drug incorrectly, LSD was outlawed in California. In 1970, it was listed by Congress as a Schedule I substance, meaning it has no recognized medicinal or therapeutic uses.
4. GHB
Famous these days as a ‘date rape’ drug, GHB is a naturally-occurring neurochemical that produces a depressant, pain-relieving effect. A lab-made version was synthesized in the 1960s and was used widely in Europe as an anesthetic, particularly in childbirth. In the 1980s, it became popular among body builders as a legal sleep aid, and eventually as a legal recreational drug. After GHB became associated with abuse and accidental deaths, the FDA cracked down on its sale in 1990. It was not listed federally as a controlled substance (illegal to possess as well as to sell) until 2000 when, like LSD, it became a Schedule 1 drug. However, GHB has recently been approved as a heavily-controlled treatment for narcolepsy.
3. Magic Mushrooms
Also known as shrooms, magic mushrooms are fungi native to Asia and the Americas that contain psilocybin, a compound that produces an LSD-like effect in users. Magic mushrooms have been in use for millennia, but as recently as the early 20th century Western academics were still arguing whether or not they existed. Use among Westerners was popularized in the 1950s after an article on the subject appeared in Life Magazine. In the 1960s, psychologist Timothy Leary and many others promoted these mushrooms for psychological use.
Possession of psilocybin-containing mushrooms was outlawed in 1968. However, since the mushroom spores do not contain psilocybin, spores are still legal in most states.
2. Ecstasy
MDMA, or ecstasy, was legal in the United States as recently as 1984. Synthesized and patented in 1912 by a chemist working for pharmaceutical company Merck, it was largely forgotten until the mid 1970s, when Berkeley professor Alexander Shulgin popularized it for use in psychotherapy. Shulgin claimed that it could help psychiatric patients achieve greater introspection and more openness with their therapists. Ecstasy also became popular in non-therapeutic settings, particularly nightclubs, and in 1985 was put under an ‘emergency ban’ and became a Schedule I controlled drug.
1. Heroin
First synthesized in 1874, heroin was first created as a non-addictive alternative to morphine. The word ‘heroin’ is actually a brand name created by the pharmaceutical company that invented it, Bayer. In the early 20th century, it was also marketed in the US as a treatment for coughs and as a kind of old-fashioned methadone program for morphine users.
Unfortunately, the drug turned out to be more addictive than morphine. Heroin used to be legal, until it became apparent that it is more addictive than morphine, and can cause opiate withdrawal symptoms when its use is abruptly stopped. After hundreds of thousands of Americans saw their sore throats relieved only to be replaced with crippling addiction and long-term stays at a drug rehab program; heroin usage was severely restricted in the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act of 1914, and outlawed altogether in 1924.
Read more: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-drugs-tha ... z2cUbATInZ
I am not a nuclear physicist, but play one on the internet.
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PB,
Depends on your evidence of safety. Is a black market safer than commercial channels for all concerned?
These police officers say the drug price support and gang finance program should end.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
BTW if we are going to outlaw substances Federally we ought to do it right. Pass a Constitutional Amendment. Or are you one of those Right Wingers/Left Wingers who believes the document is passe'?
And note: the danger of all those drugs is vastly overestimated. And meth is legal. For some conditions. And opiates? Well the black market for legal opiates has far overtaken the black market for opium. The estimates are by a factor of 4X. Oxy ring a bell?
Now why would the dangers be exaggerated? Lots of government functionaries DEPEND on that overestimation for their jobs. When the DEA used to pass out such estimates they said they got 10% of the flows. Are you getting your money's worth assuming you buy into the "dangers" ?
The Drug War is just another government program. It makes you feel good because the government is "doing something" even if it is doing a lot while not accomplishing much.
And BTW how exactly are you going to make outlawing plants and fungus stick? A person would have to be insane to believe that is possible. But I will grant you that the country is full of such insane people.
Depends on your evidence of safety. Is a black market safer than commercial channels for all concerned?
These police officers say the drug price support and gang finance program should end.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
BTW if we are going to outlaw substances Federally we ought to do it right. Pass a Constitutional Amendment. Or are you one of those Right Wingers/Left Wingers who believes the document is passe'?
And note: the danger of all those drugs is vastly overestimated. And meth is legal. For some conditions. And opiates? Well the black market for legal opiates has far overtaken the black market for opium. The estimates are by a factor of 4X. Oxy ring a bell?
Now why would the dangers be exaggerated? Lots of government functionaries DEPEND on that overestimation for their jobs. When the DEA used to pass out such estimates they said they got 10% of the flows. Are you getting your money's worth assuming you buy into the "dangers" ?
The Drug War is just another government program. It makes you feel good because the government is "doing something" even if it is doing a lot while not accomplishing much.
And BTW how exactly are you going to make outlawing plants and fungus stick? A person would have to be insane to believe that is possible. But I will grant you that the country is full of such insane people.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
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PB,
Some videos
Retired Police Captain at a Rotary Club makes the best argument against Prohibition I have ever heard - about 38 minutes:
http://youtu.be/eDCf-Et2_Mc
It is not about drugs. It is about Power and Control. About 8 minutes:
http://youtu.be/IpUGV8QC1tQ
Retired Police Chief discusses the war. About 28 minutes. The first 5 minutes covers the racism of the Drug War. Worth a look just for that.
http://youtu.be/5PFr7hfx0mo
When the Federal Laws against cocaine and opiates were passed in 1914 the Republicans of that era didn't believe the Feds had the power but the Progressives won the day. Making the current Republican Party just another branch of the Progressive movement.
And while I'm at it - how did a drug freely available for 20 or 30 years over the counter, become one of the most feared drugs in the nation? Heroin. You may find the answer you seek here: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm
Some videos
Retired Police Captain at a Rotary Club makes the best argument against Prohibition I have ever heard - about 38 minutes:
http://youtu.be/eDCf-Et2_Mc
It is not about drugs. It is about Power and Control. About 8 minutes:
http://youtu.be/IpUGV8QC1tQ
Retired Police Chief discusses the war. About 28 minutes. The first 5 minutes covers the racism of the Drug War. Worth a look just for that.
http://youtu.be/5PFr7hfx0mo
When the Federal Laws against cocaine and opiates were passed in 1914 the Republicans of that era didn't believe the Feds had the power but the Progressives won the day. Making the current Republican Party just another branch of the Progressive movement.
And while I'm at it - how did a drug freely available for 20 or 30 years over the counter, become one of the most feared drugs in the nation? Heroin. You may find the answer you seek here: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
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Sorry not seeking answers just pointing out that even something that was once thought to be good ,or even still good can be bad if abused or just overused. and that seems to be what happened with all of those drug previously mentioned.
I am not a nuclear physicist, but play one on the internet.
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Well geeze. That is why we have government. So nothing bad happens. And only good is allowed. Which is why alcohol was made illegal. And then re-legalized.paperburn1 wrote:Sorry not seeking answers just pointing out that even something that was once thought to be good ,or even still good can be bad if abused or just overused. and that seems to be what happened with all of those drug previously mentioned.
BTW what was once good and now bad may be good again. The US Government now has pilot studies reexamining the question of the use of LSD in medicine. And of course the endocannabinoid revolution has caused a TOTAL re-examination of cannabis.
And you may not know this but most of the bad attributed to the drugs is caused by prohibition.
What passes for "conservatism" these days is just a different form of Progressivism. And the refrain will be "No, no, we are nothing like them at all. We only want big government for GOOD purposes." The real key is "want big government". All the rest is sophistry.
And drug prohibition itself? Its inception had nothing to do with protection. It was racism top to bottom.
Drug War History
When this is more widely known the Republicans will be branded the RACIST PARTY for decades to come. Not for instituting Prohibition but for insisting on its continuance.
A Retired Police Chief discusses the war. About 28 minutes. The first 5 minutes covers the racism of the Drug War.
http://youtu.be/5PFr7hfx0mo
That is what happens when you don't know history.
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