Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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Re: Msulims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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Atheism is a religion is like abstinence is a sex position - Maher
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Re: Msulims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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AcesHigh wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Religion is a lot like intestinal bacteria. It produces farts once in a while, but if you get rid of the good bacteria, the bad bacteria (C. Diff) will take over the place and try to kill you.

problem is, the "good" bacteria has killed many in the past and will likely kill many more in the future.


Of course you have some numbers to back up this allegation. How about you post the numbers of people killed throughout history by "Christians", then post the numbers Killed by Muslims and Atheists.


AcesHigh wrote: Not so sure its good bacteria.

How could you be? You obviously can't tell one type from another, else you wouldn't have said what you said above.

AcesHigh wrote: More likely, we developed immunity to it, but soon it will mutate and start killing again.

Of course. I am constantly hearing about Christian bombers all over the world. Why just the other day, a couple of Presbyterians blew up the Boston Marathon. GAFC.

AcesHigh wrote: Just other day was seeing a very good movie that few people even saw... Agora... about the last days of Alexandria Library, the christians waging war first on pagans, then on jews than finally killing the atheist Hypatia.... yes, a movie, but based on real events, aside her discovery of the ellipse orbits of planets.

You really shouldn't believe everything you hear. If it comes from the movie industry, it's probably lies.
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Re: Msulims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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djolds1 wrote:Power shifts, but so long as humaity endures it will not end.

And the advance of IT is making the "Army of Davids" improbable in the face of a totalistic state. Witness how easy it was to ID and take down the Boston Bombers last week.


I see this as well, and it scares the bejeebers out of me. Will we have, at some point, implanted network devices to connect us to the collective?

Electronic Telepathy might have it's advantages, but it's drawbacks certainly outweigh it's benefits in my thinking.
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Re: Msulims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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kcdodd wrote:Saying atheism is the religion of atheists is like saying broccoli is the pork of vegetarians.


Evangelical Atheists are like homosexual activists. They aren't content to just do their own thing, they want to force everyone else to acknowledge them and agree with them.


And yes, they pursue this obnoxious behavior with the single minded fanaticism of a religious zealot.
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That their very existence is a testament to the freedom created by Christianity and Western thought, never seems to occur to them. I can't wait until the Atheist Demographic runs into the Muslim Demographic. That promises to be highly entertaining.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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hmmm... how many people were killed by atheists, Diogenes? Maybe you can answer that one. If you are going to say about all the millions of people killed by communists, they were not killed because of atheism or for atheism, or anything. If you want to count them because the regimes were suposedly 'atheist", then we will have to count ALL the war deaths under christian regimes/kingdoms/republics.

as for Hypathia, its far away from being a Hollywood story...

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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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Force? With this forcing again. Who is forcing anyone to do anything? Have you ever heard of freedom of speech? You seem to think that atheists disagree with theists over the use of language to communicate.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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AcesHigh wrote:hmmm... how many people were killed by atheists, Diogenes? Maybe you can answer that one. If you are going to say about all the millions of people killed by communists, they were not killed because of atheism or for atheism, or anything.

Yes, that all these murderous dictators didn't believe in God has NOTHING to do with the fact that they have killed over 100 million people. It's just a bizarre coincidence.




AcesHigh wrote: If you want to count them because the regimes were suposedly 'atheist", then we will have to count ALL the war deaths under christian regimes/kingdoms/republics.

War is an important part of Jesus' teachings. He is always going on about how we need to invade and murder people, don't you know?



AcesHigh wrote: as for Hypathia, its far away from being a Hollywood story...

I take this to mean that you didn't bother looking at the link I gave you. Not surprising. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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kcdodd wrote:Force? With this forcing again. Who is forcing anyone to do anything? Have you ever heard of freedom of speech? You seem to think that atheists disagree with theists over the use of language to communicate.
"Force" in the manner of a child throwing a temper tantrum. They DEMAND attention.


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It's not that religious people are trying to make them believe in God, most are content to let them believe or disbelieve in whatever they want. The atheists just don't seem to consider the possibility that the religion which they are too intellectual to believe in, might just have some real world societal benefits, without which, their opinions would not be tolerated. Their efforts to destroy religion may bring back the very Darkness which they fear.


Humanity has an affinity for religion the way the bowels have an affinity for bacteria. You aren't going to get rid of it, so you might as well try to make sure you are hosting benign versions of it.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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Diogenes wrote: It's not that religious people are trying to make them believe in God, most are content to let them believe or disbelieve in whatever they want. The atheists just don't seem to consider the possibility that the religion which they are too intellectual to believe in, might just have some real world societal benefits, without which, their opinions would not be tolerated. Their efforts to destroy religion may bring back the very Darkness which they fear.
Their heads are too far up their backsides to consider that ancient religious precepts might have something to do with the success of the societies that hold them. That old taboos might play a role in preventing plagues and famine. Then when the plagues strike, they blame those who warned they would come.
Humanity has an affinity for religion the way the bowels have an affinity for bacteria. You aren't going to get rid of it, so you might as well try to make sure you are hosting benign versions of it.
As I've said, not all religions are equal. Some may do well in a tribal society, but be poison to a free and prosperous society.
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Just wait until the atheists clash with the agnostics, that'll be fun to watch!
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Re: Msulims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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Diogenes wrote:
djolds1 wrote:Power shifts, but so long as humaity endures it will not end.

And the advance of IT is making the "Army of Davids" improbable in the face of a totalistic state. Witness how easy it was to ID and take down the Boston Bombers last week.
I see this as well, and it scares the bejeebers out of me. Will we have, at some point, implanted network devices to connect us to the collective?
Have a smartphone? Everyone who does is part of the hive.

And the newer models do not allow battery removal.
AcesHigh wrote:hmmm... how many people were killed by atheists, Diogenes? Maybe you can answer that one. If you are going to say about all the millions of people killed by communists, they were not killed because of atheism or for atheism, or anything. If you want to count them because the regimes were suposedly 'atheist", then we will have to count ALL the war deaths under christian regimes/kingdoms/republics.
Communism is based on dialectical materialism for a reason.
Diogenes wrote:The atheists just don't seem to consider the possibility that the religion which they are too intellectual to believe in, might just have some real world societal benefits, without which, their opinions would not be tolerated. Their efforts to destroy religion may bring back the very Darkness which they fear.
MAY?
Diogenes wrote:Humanity has an affinity for religion the way the bowels have an affinity for bacteria. You aren't going to get rid of it, so you might as well try to make sure you are hosting benign versions of it.
The Second Religiousness should be interesting. Christianity may have been the low-odds event.
hanelyp wrote:As I've said, not all religions are equal. Some may do well in a tribal society, but be poison to a free and prosperous society.
I'm now starting to question the survivability and presumed penultimate value of wealthy and developed societies. There is a reason the cosmopoleis of history are almost inevitably overrun by the barbarians.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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Diogenes wrote:
kcdodd wrote:Force? With this forcing again. Who is forcing anyone to do anything? Have you ever heard of freedom of speech? You seem to think that atheists disagree with theists over the use of language to communicate.
"Force" in the manner of a child throwing a temper tantrum. They DEMAND attention.


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It's not that religious people are trying to make them believe in God, most are content to let them believe or disbelieve in whatever they want. The atheists just don't seem to consider the possibility that the religion which they are too intellectual to believe in, might just have some real world societal benefits, without which, their opinions would not be tolerated. Their efforts to destroy religion may bring back the very Darkness which they fear.


Humanity has an affinity for religion the way the bowels have an affinity for bacteria. You aren't going to get rid of it, so you might as well try to make sure you are hosting benign versions of it.
lol. So now it's a child throwing a temper tantrum. I love how you can't stick with a metaphor to save your life. Efforts to destroy religion? So then is preaching an effort to destroy all other religions? Who is throwing the tantrum again? Grow up dude. Bacteria ain't the only thing coming from your bowels.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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kcdodd wrote:lol. So now it's a child throwing a temper tantrum. I love how you can't stick with a metaphor to save your life. Efforts to destroy religion? So then is preaching an effort to destroy all other religions? Who is throwing the tantrum again? Grow up dude. Bacteria ain't the only thing coming from your bowels.
There are already efforts underway to force Churches to perform homosexual weddings, to categorize the dogmas of faiths that don't kill people en masse as hate speech, etc. The ratchet only turns Left.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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I don't agree with making people do stuff. But now you are conflating atheists coming out of the closet with a completely different subject.
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Re: Muslims calling for the Death of all Athiests.

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kcdodd wrote:I don't agree with making people do stuff. But now you are conflating atheists coming out of the closet with a completely different subject.
Anticlericism and militant atheism have been part of (Proto-)Jacobin thinking back to the early Enlightenment.
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