the War on Drugs
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the War on Drugs
Great bit on C-SPAN you can look for on youtube, with Michele Leonhart, the administrator for the DEA, explaining how destructive our current situation is with so many states sending the mixed message that drugs are okay. Lots of great data, especially on pot, cocaine, meth and ecstacy about how destructive they are. The administrator is before congress and congress' almost universal response is outrage since the federal law preempts the state law and the states with these pro-drug laws are in open rebellion.
Maybe there is a reason DHS is stockpiling 2 billion rounds of ammo and these light APC's.
She did a great job explaining the drug trade into the US and everything that's been done about it these last six years and basically, made it obvious we are winning the war on drugs. She did a wonderful debunking of myths about the drug war. For instance, that in the states that have medical mar. there are more pot dispensaries than Starbucks! A great rendering of the history of the drug war and explanation that we are indeed winning the war. Definitely not the perspective you'd get from the dopey Libertaraians here.
For instance, the latest study she quoted was that for the average high school student who begins to use by age 13, by the time they're age 20 they have suffered an 8% loss in IQ.
Maybe there is a reason DHS is stockpiling 2 billion rounds of ammo and these light APC's.
She did a great job explaining the drug trade into the US and everything that's been done about it these last six years and basically, made it obvious we are winning the war on drugs. She did a wonderful debunking of myths about the drug war. For instance, that in the states that have medical mar. there are more pot dispensaries than Starbucks! A great rendering of the history of the drug war and explanation that we are indeed winning the war. Definitely not the perspective you'd get from the dopey Libertaraians here.
For instance, the latest study she quoted was that for the average high school student who begins to use by age 13, by the time they're age 20 they have suffered an 8% loss in IQ.
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
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I see the war on drugs as something like the war on piracy. There will always be some piracy. But if we tolerate it or allow safe havens we will get much more piracy.
The daylight is uncomfortably bright for eyes so long in the dark.
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Well of course the War On Drugs is winnable. You just kill all the Drug Users. Estimated regular users 15 million.
To totally end it in 5 years you need only round up the 15 million and kill 3 million of them a year. About 8,200 a day. I think that is do able. In fact I wrote a how to manual some years ago. http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/200 ... users.html
The trouble is you have guys like the FDA working at cross purposes to the DEA http://santacruz.patch.com/articles/fda ... -marijuana
And there is worse out there. They are teaching endocannabinoids in medical schools: http://classicalvalues.com/2013/04/endo ... id-videos/
What needs to be done is to stop all research in the area at once and remove all cites for endocannabinoids from the NIH library. http://www.nih.gov/
With a more single minded approach the war can be won faster. But all these counter productive messages must be quashed.
Why just last week a Rabbi who is opening a pot dispensary in Washington,DC gave a speech in Rockford. And worse he was interviewed on local TV. I have the link to the video below. The news people were quite equivocal instead of totally denouncing the Jew. http://classicalvalues.com/2013/04/rabb ... -rockford/
I was there to monitor the event and his congregation cheered him. In addition Reform Jews have been heavy into the pro-legalization side for a decade.
Something needs to be done about those Jews.
Here is a list of just a few of them masquerading as researchers:
Dr. Raphael Mechoulam - Faculty of Medicine, Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Dr. Donald Abrams
Dr. Bob Melamede http://www.uccs.edu/~rmelamed/
Here is a Jewish apologist for breaking the law. http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/medmarijuana.html
You can find more of them in this article http://www.thejewishchronicle.net/pages ... id=5084251
From the link:
Evil people. Something must be done.
To totally end it in 5 years you need only round up the 15 million and kill 3 million of them a year. About 8,200 a day. I think that is do able. In fact I wrote a how to manual some years ago. http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/200 ... users.html
The trouble is you have guys like the FDA working at cross purposes to the DEA http://santacruz.patch.com/articles/fda ... -marijuana
And there is worse out there. They are teaching endocannabinoids in medical schools: http://classicalvalues.com/2013/04/endo ... id-videos/
What needs to be done is to stop all research in the area at once and remove all cites for endocannabinoids from the NIH library. http://www.nih.gov/
With a more single minded approach the war can be won faster. But all these counter productive messages must be quashed.
Why just last week a Rabbi who is opening a pot dispensary in Washington,DC gave a speech in Rockford. And worse he was interviewed on local TV. I have the link to the video below. The news people were quite equivocal instead of totally denouncing the Jew. http://classicalvalues.com/2013/04/rabb ... -rockford/
I was there to monitor the event and his congregation cheered him. In addition Reform Jews have been heavy into the pro-legalization side for a decade.
Something needs to be done about those Jews.
Here is a list of just a few of them masquerading as researchers:
Dr. Raphael Mechoulam - Faculty of Medicine, Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Dr. Donald Abrams
Dr. Bob Melamede http://www.uccs.edu/~rmelamed/
Here is a Jewish apologist for breaking the law. http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/medmarijuana.html
You can find more of them in this article http://www.thejewishchronicle.net/pages ... id=5084251
From the link:
Here is another bunch of them: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-an ... ntact-highDamsker, a board member of the Jewish Social Policy Action Network in Philadelphia, testified in favor of House Bill 1393. Rabbi Eric Cytrin of Temple Beth El in Harrisburg, a Conservative congregation, also testified that medical marijuana was consistent with Jewish values.
Evil people. Something must be done.
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And look at all the people promoting the abomination of legalization just in Wisconsin.
A forum on legalizing marijuana is being presented by the Fox Valley American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and moderated by Stephen Richards, a criminal justice professor. A discussion panel will include:
Hariprasad S. Trivedi, M.D., D.M.
Kirk W. Everson, Wisconsin Criminal Defense Attorney
Jim Gierach, former Chicago prosecutor in the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office and Director with Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
Did you get that? The ACLU. All these people need to be rounded up.
A forum on legalizing marijuana is being presented by the Fox Valley American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and moderated by Stephen Richards, a criminal justice professor. A discussion panel will include:
Hariprasad S. Trivedi, M.D., D.M.
Kirk W. Everson, Wisconsin Criminal Defense Attorney
Jim Gierach, former Chicago prosecutor in the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office and Director with Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
Did you get that? The ACLU. All these people need to be rounded up.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
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According to Leonhart's testimony before congress, there is no credible evidence that marijuana has any medicinal value. It is and should remain a schedule 1 drug. The fact FDA is testing this does not support your contention that these agencies are working at crossed purposes. Rather, it suggests they're acting responsibly. When the FDA comes to a single, federal finding, it will be in a position to overturn all the state laws as regards marijuana.
Just because people jump off bridges doesn't make it a good idea. Listening to a social dropout who's entire life is utterly wasted doesn't make much sense, now does it?
Just because people jump off bridges doesn't make it a good idea. Listening to a social dropout who's entire life is utterly wasted doesn't make much sense, now does it?
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
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Leonhart is not a drug researcher so her opinion on the credibility of medical research is irrelevant.
For her to say there is no credible evidence of medicinal value is willful ignorance.
For her to say there is no credible evidence of medicinal value is willful ignorance.
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so how about this guy "Cannabis is the most widely-used illicit drug globally," says Dr. Shamloul, a postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology. "It is also often used by young, sexually active people who are unaware of the hazardous effects it may be having on their sexual health and performance."Stubby wrote:Leonhart is not a drug researcher so her opinion on the credibility of medical research is irrelevant.
For her to say there is no credible evidence of medicinal value is willful ignorance.
Recent animal and in vitro studies have identified new negative connections between cannabis use and sexual dysfunction that may put an end to previous controversy.
While it was previously known that cannabis could affect certain receptors in the brain, it's now believed that these receptors also exist in the penis. Cannabis use may have an antagonizing effect on these receptors in the penis, making it more difficult for a man to achieve and maintain an erection.
"These findings will change the current understanding of the magnitude of the impact of cannabis use on sexual health," says Dr. Shamloul.
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The whole notion that someone would need to be a researcher to have an informed option is just absurd as it yields the idiotic conclusion that only researchers can have informed opinions and we know this isn't true. Rather, it is researchers who often bias the results of their study. It is more likely to have an unbiased opinion as the head of the DEA, than as a researcher.
If Leonhart is biased, it is probable that bias extends from her job. The DEA's mode of operation extends around pursuit of institutions and groups involved in drug trafficking, since these groups generally do not specialize in one drug. The same cartel that ships marijuana also ships cocaine, meth and X. They are lumped together because they are all prohibited, profitable to smuggle and get smuggled by the same groups. However, Leonhart went out of her way to argue against marijuana and especially that decriminalization in the states is having a negative impact on the country, because it is sending a mixed message to our youth. She gave several examples and obviously, she is correct. The actions of those states in rebellion against federal drug law are sending a mixed message to our youth.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/306685-1
If Leonhart is biased, it is probable that bias extends from her job. The DEA's mode of operation extends around pursuit of institutions and groups involved in drug trafficking, since these groups generally do not specialize in one drug. The same cartel that ships marijuana also ships cocaine, meth and X. They are lumped together because they are all prohibited, profitable to smuggle and get smuggled by the same groups. However, Leonhart went out of her way to argue against marijuana and especially that decriminalization in the states is having a negative impact on the country, because it is sending a mixed message to our youth. She gave several examples and obviously, she is correct. The actions of those states in rebellion against federal drug law are sending a mixed message to our youth.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/306685-1
"Courage is not just a virtue, but the form of every virtue at the testing point." C. S. Lewis
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I get the impression that the vast majority of plant compounds psychoactive or otherwise physiologically active in animals have an adverse impact on life expectancy or population level in general of animals that actively eat the plants producing these compounds. In short, these compounds are chemical warfare by plants against the animals that eat them. In some cases these compounds have found medicinal use, but they remain harmful when used to excess or absent an indicated medical condition.
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Cannibis for pain relief not all it's cracked up to be.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/12/29 ... 49770.html
But seriously, if you were one of these globalist types into population reduction and control, wouldn't you want to push mind altering substances that reduce sperm counts and make people passive/paranoid, as pain relief goes there's better stuff out there. What you really want to do is prevent the pain in the first place and if not, secondly, permanently cure the cause of the pain. Cannibis is the kind of rent seeking model banksters love.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/12/29 ... 49770.html
But seriously, if you were one of these globalist types into population reduction and control, wouldn't you want to push mind altering substances that reduce sperm counts and make people passive/paranoid, as pain relief goes there's better stuff out there. What you really want to do is prevent the pain in the first place and if not, secondly, permanently cure the cause of the pain. Cannibis is the kind of rent seeking model banksters love.
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https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?vi ... 7987031112
and this is why you do not do drugs...
and this is why you do not do drugs...
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hanelyp wrote:I get the impression that the vast majority of plant compounds psychoactive or otherwise physiologically active in animals have an adverse impact on life expectancy or population level in general of animals that actively eat the plants producing these compounds. In short, these compounds are chemical warfare by plants against the animals that eat them. In some cases these compounds have found medicinal use, but they remain harmful when used to excess or absent an indicated medical condition.
They are an evolved plant protection mechanism. The plants produce biological toxins so as to minimize predation. They purposely resemble mammalian endocrinal secretions.
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