When science and religion collide who sets curriculum?

[ladajo]

I was wondering about the Gallup surveys that were cited. I went to the link but didnot find an obvious methodology statement.
Makes me suspect of the scope.

[Schneibster]

Methodology?

Too subtle for me. I've been trying to understand your comment, but I am apparently woefully inadequate to the task.

So "methodology" is too subtle for you?

[Diogenes]

If you read my post, you would have noticed that I do not distinguish between religions with a god and without a god. The whole new age crap, the whole gaya crap and all that other spritualist nonsense is also a religion and not based on science.

The Certainty that there is nothing is also non-falsifiable.


Agnosticism is the only rational position.

[Schneibster]

I was wondering about the Gallup surveys that were cited. I went to the link but didnot find an obvious methodology statement.
Makes me suspect of the scope.

No, no, don't confuse the meshbacks with more methodology!

Methodology is evil!

[Schneibster]

If you read my post, you would have noticed that I do not distinguish between religions with a god and without a god. The whole new age crap, the whole gaya crap and all that other spritualist nonsense is also a religion and not based on science.

The Certainty that there is nothing is also non-falsifiable.


Agnosticism is the only rational position.

So you don't believe in methodology, right?

You're against methodology, right?

Snicker.

[Diogenes]

The muslim world is completely science averse anyway.

But ruthless. Several years ago I read an essay which opened my eyes to something. Zealots can fight Zealots. Rational men will succumb to Zealots. The Reason various Crusades pushed back the Muslim invasions was because Religious people were fanatical enough to fight Religious conquest.

Apathetic or militant Atheism inspires no great passion to attack an invading religion. Such will be utterly helpless, ergo such will be converted or eradicated.

European ennui towards Christianity is slowly being transformed into European acceptance and dominance by Islam.

Silly buggers don't really understand what's coming yet.


You do, and that's one reason you left. Now you want to drag that same mindset that disarmed your continent over here to weaken this one.

Figure it out.

[Diogenes]

genetics are frowned upon by the followers of almost all religions and ideologies

Dream on. Most scientists are Christians.

And always have been. (till relatively recently.) People can argue that it is a coincidence, but I believe there is a chain of causality here.

I suspect that had Christianity never arisen, (and Particularly the Protestant Reformation.) Nations would still be at the technological level of the Romans.

It is noteworthy that settled portions of the world (Egypt, South America, China) which did not Adopt Christianity, became very far behind by the 20th century compared to the Christianized lands.

All Christianized nations advanced technologically, while the rest seemed stuck in the Roman era.




50 Famous Scientists talk about God.

[GIThruster]

I think it's obviously true that any of the three classical theistic religions lead to a belief that the world is organized and knowable. Likewise, Christianity made the renaissance possible by making humanism possible. Places like the far East have no religious tradition that would lead to science past casual examples like alchemy. Even to this date, look at traditional Chinese medicine. It's completely a-scientific. That is what you get when you have a religion that teaches you to stop thinking (and stop caring) in order to obtain enlightenment.

[Diogenes]

Again, incapable of understanding what I was trying to say. Christianity still assumes that "god made all people equal". This is simply not true.

And about that you are absolutely correct. Some men are stronger and more powerful, and capable of enslaving or eradicating others. Eugenics argues we should encourage this. (Rational, Scientific) Christianity argues we should not. (Emotional, Spiritual)


Christian principles are the only force on earth opposed to slavery.


Sometimes a benign fiction is much preferable to a virulent truth.


If there is no "Magical Space Daddy" to say "You are all my children" why should we competing organisms of a similar genetic line, not attack and destroy others of differing genetic lines? Competition for food demands it. The Fitter deserve to survive!*

Is this not Darwinian?


Again, sometimes a benign fiction is much preferable to a virulent truth.





*(I suspect this is what mostly happened to the Neanderthals.)

[Schneibster]

Ammonia is named for sal ammoniac, which collected on the chimneys of temples of Ammon-Ra, a sun-god, due to their habit of burning dung.

These temples existed in Egypt, and contributed to knowledge of al Khemia, also known as al-khemi, or alchemy, or chemistry.

While stupid tribal white Europeans were murdering one another for imaginary witchcraft, the Arabs were inventing chemistry, and mathematics.

The smart Muslims are as smart as smart Christians. And the stupid fundie Muslims are just as stupid as the stupid fundie Christian meshbacks like you.

[Diogenes]

Cheap oil refers to oil in 1953 not 1990 or 2003.

Once again, out of an entire Forest, you pick a bush to chop on.

[Schneibster]

Cheap oil refers to oil in 1953 not 1990 or 2003.

Once again, out of an entire Forest, you pick a bush to chop on.

Once again, you make up another lie to deny reality.

[Stubby]

50 Famous Scientists talk about God.

50 atheist or agnostic famous scientists talk about god if "diogenes" video link does not work

[Diogenes]

Evolution is an orthodoxy and those who prove heretical will be punished regardless of the strength of their arguments. If you are not an evolutionist, you can forget getting your PhD in many fields, from micro-bio to anthropology. Carl Sagan, Stephen J. Goulde, Richard Dawkins--all soundly defeated in open debate and yet 30 years later, there is no difference because evolution is the current religion.

It has been my experience that Orthodoxy is nearly a constant. Regardless of what discipline, there appears to be a "Herd Mentality" going on with it.


I think Simon was fond of quoting that commentary to the effect that:

"Science advances one funeral at a time."

[Diogenes]

50 atheist or agnostic famous scientists talk about god if "diogenes" video link does not work

Still wacking that bush, eh?