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CaptainBeowulf
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Incidentally, if Stalin hadn't murdered much of the Soviet officer corps in the late 1930s, including Marshall Tukhachevsky, who in his books on "Deep War" laid out the Soviet version of blitzkreig which was used successfully in 1944-45, the Russians may have beaten the Germans quite effectively in 1941. Also, if Stalin and Molotov hadn't signed a non-aggression pact with Germany in 1939 to divide up Poland and give the Germans a free hand to invade France and other countries, the Germans wouldn't have been able to turn three quarters of their army on the Soviet Union. There was a tyrant with (figuratively) no clothes!

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KitemanSA wrote:Nope, the Soviet Mentality (which you mimic to a T) is that the king MUST be naked since the glorious leaders of the past SAID he should be naked! And since they SAID so, you don't even have to look to see if he is naked. The glorious leaders of the past said he should be. Dah comrade, the glorious leaders said 40 years ago he should be naked, he is naked! Is PRAVDA!
You do not know whole pravda. Senator McCarty was not better than the most glorious Soviet leader. I think that in his time in USA many people being afraid to be written down in "communists" were hammered also as Russians. And we Georgians we always were exclusive in the Soviet Union. And people with captation looked in our face and not we looked for another's look.
And now ask new friends Ladajo do they consider Americans as primitive silly monkeys or not? Ask them how big halls their humorist Mikhail Zadornov collects and about whom he jokes? About Georgian or Americans? “They do not like you” my new friend said. Say them: “po khui”

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CaptainBeowulf wrote:Incidentally, if Stalin hadn't murdered much of the Soviet officer corps in the late 1930s, including Marshall Tukhachevsky, who in his books on "Deep War" laid out the Soviet version of blitzkreig which was used successfully in 1944-45, the Russians may have beaten the Germans quite effectively in 1941. Also, if Stalin and Molotov hadn't signed a non-aggression pact with Germany in 1939 to divide up Poland and give the Germans a free hand to invade France and other countries, the Germans wouldn't have been able to turn three quarters of their army on the Soviet Union. There was a tyrant with (figuratively) no clothes!
This is Russian neo-liberal version of history. The fact is only one: Russians ran away from Germans till Beria didn’t put in the back special groups ruthlessly shooting running people from machine guns. I do not know was Tukhachevsky better than Zhukov. But the fact is only one: Tukhachevsky looser, Zhukov, Stalin, Beria winners.

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Joseph Chikva wrote:
KitemanSA wrote: "You do not want to learn." It may be that "all mirror machines had convex field", but Polywell is not a mirror machine, except maybe for electrons. And electrons "lost" thru the cusps are recirculated by the MaGrid charge. Polywell is an INERTIAL ELECTRO-DYNAMIC CONFINENT machine. Say it slowly i-n-e-r-t-i-a-l e-l-e-c-t-r-o - d-y-n-a-m-i-c confinement. Your "lessons" re toks don't often apply.
Slowly-quicly - all the same. Magnetic field in Polywell is intended for confining of electrons. And for electrons Polywell is typical magnetic trap (mirror machine). Yes, field is convex. Now what the matter how you will call that.
"You do not want to learn." Polywell is NOT a typical magnetic trap (mirror machine) for electrons, it is a magnetic AMPLIFIER for electrons, the TRAP is the MaGrid CHARGE.
Joseph Chikva wrote:TOKAMAK has nothing to do here.
So you are FINALLY beginning to understand that. Good.

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Joseph Chikva wrote:
KitemanSA wrote:Nope, the Soviet Mentality (which you mimic to a T) is that the king MUST be naked since the glorious leaders of the past SAID he should be naked! And since they SAID so, you don't even have to look to see if he is naked. The glorious leaders of the past said he should be. Dah comrade, the glorious leaders said 40 years ago he should be naked, he is naked! Is PRAVDA!
You do not know whole pravda. Senator McCarty was not better than the most glorious Soviet leader.
Which is why he didn't last long. Russians sat and suffered their "glorious leaders" till Reagan out-spent them on the military and they just couldn't keep up.

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Joseph Chikva wrote:
ladajo wrote:Apparently the Soviet Mentality is more preserved in the former puppet satellite states.
or when I am saying something I support them with corresponding references. And you don't.
... I think that your new Russian friends will not like me stronger for this true. Like you do not like me for true about Polywell.
So unsubstantiated statements from a "polyweller" are no good, but from you they're alright? Is this part of the Russian thing? What Polywell data do you have to support your assertions about Polywell?

You have no Polywell data.
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KitemanSA wrote:Polywell is NOT a typical magnetic trap (mirror machine) for electrons, it is a magnetic AMPLIFIER for electrons, the TRAP is the MaGrid CHARGE.
he-he

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Betruger wrote:
Joseph Chikva wrote:
ladajo wrote:Apparently the Soviet Mentality is more preserved in the former puppet satellite states.
or when I am saying something I support them with corresponding references. And you don't.
... I think that your new Russian friends will not like me stronger for this true. Like you do not like me for true about Polywell.
So unsubstantiated statements from a "polyweller" are no good, but from you they're alright? Is this part of the Russian thing? What Polywell data do you have to support your assertions about Polywell?

You have no Polywell data.
My statements are well substantiated. I can explain every of them.
Can begin from now.
For example my doubt about vulnerability from at least electron-ion 2-stream instability. Nebel said about immunity against electron-electron, made and published one paper but that paper should be checked too. Taking into account his unsubstantiated statement beta=1. Yes, he then added “that all is not reliable”. But nevertheless, at least nobody from Russian plasma physicist can say the similar nonsense. May be because of it so many of those now work in USA.

The rest my "unsubstantiated statement" you bring yourself.

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Explain how you speak definitively about an experiment for which you have zero data. After arguing that others have no basis for asserting anything about same experiment, for same absence of same data.
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Betruger wrote:Explain how you speak definitively about an experiment for which you have zero data. After arguing that others have no basis for asserting anything about same experiment, for same absence of same data.
Some experimental errors may be disproved theoretically. Statement that Polywell is absolutely stable because of convex field is wrong. I proposed you examples of history of fusion research stating that Polywell is not the first machine with convex field. In all those significant instabilities were observed.
Once upon a time I have proposed here a swimming pool analogy. beta=1 for plasma device is like swimming pool filled to edges. And when water is stable pool does not loss water. But if we have wave it does. And we can loss even when pool is filled at 10% from its volume in case of significant intensity of waves.
Returning to polywell as evidence of beta=1 here we see the fact of more losses as predicted as cusp losses. And that definitely is wrong statement. Regardless to my ethnicity and mentality.

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By your arguments nothing is fact unless data exists to back it up. You do not have Polywell data.
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Yes, he then added “that all is not reliable”.
This is out of context Joseph.
As I recall, Nebel was referring to the use of photmultiplier tubes to detect peak. They have since greatly improved instrumentation, for example as discussed in the interferometry paper.

Joseph, I have never said I do not like you. You do present a suborn persistence and inflexibility in your thinking. But that gives me no cause to not like you. I am not that childish.

You also clearly have not read all the pubilcally available material. And yet, you continue to argue. It does not help your case to do so. It also seems that when you do read something, you tend to cherry pick sentences out of context. So far, I chalk this up to language barrier. But I do wonder sometimes if it is a failure on your part to understand the whole.

Your pool analagy is fine. I understand what you are getting at. But you are also missing the point that it can be ok for Polywell to have beta=1 or even beta>1. As long as it does not stay there. The test articles have not been designed for continuous run. They are pulse machines. This means that it is all about timing and preset parameters. Once you hit the button, it does what it does. Then you reset, adjust some knobs, and hit the button again. Pulse machines are not adjustable on the fly.

As has been pointed out several times, you have not explained how plasma pressure exceeding magnetic containment in polywell pulse experiments does not equate to passing thorugh Beta=1 conditions, nor the fact that peak power corrosponds to this point in the data as well. The well depth profile is trending with this phenomena, ions seek the well, more fusions occur, until the blow-out, and then well depth plunges, ions stop seeking, and power level drops. I purposely simplify the dynamics to the core points.
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Post by Joseph Chikva »

ladajo wrote:
Yes, he then added “that all is not reliable”.
This is out of context Joseph.
Ok, thanks. Best wishes. I am tired to argue.

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I am tired to argue.
Then you must have been awake 36 hours without sleep...
Best regards
Counting the days to commercial fusion. It is not that long now.

Joseph Chikva
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Post by Joseph Chikva »

mvanwink5 wrote:
I am tired to argue.
Then you must have been awake 36 hours without sleep...
Best regards
I have quite a good dream. Simply with USA western time we have 8 hours of difference. In the our morning checking E-mails I see what is written at USA evening. And so on.

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