US Condemns Bomb Attack on Iran Nuclear Scientist

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:59 pm

ladajo wrote:The Patriot was improperly employed in that period. As a result of that knowledge, as well as other lessons, the Patriot on the ground today is another animal entirely, much more capable and effective.

Please recall that Patriot was designed as a medium to high altitude Air-Defense system. It was not intended for Anti-Missile work. It has since been adapted (several times), and is currently very effective.

I heard. About Patriot Advanced Capability 2 and 3 as well as vertical launch European program with Patriot missiles. As air defense system I more like more mobile SL Amraam as sure that Patriot has limited anti-missile capability, less mobility and, so, quite vulnerable.

Betruger · Post by **Betruger** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:35 pm

Skipjack wrote:And then there are these absolutely draconian sentences that are completely unjustified by anything:
http://gizmodo.com/5877722/iranian-prog ... e-software

I am not a big fan of porn myself, but this is really harsh!

That's the second one recently, right? Just atrocious.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:24 pm

If there is any doubt about what some Zionist fanatics would do, see this Jan. 13 column written by the owner in the Atlanta Jewish Times.

He suggests killing three presidents, including Obama, it they get in the way of Israel's ambitions. Not just small fry like scientists.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/lo ... 0120-pm-pk

If Iran had suggested this, it would be all over the main media. Justification for an armed strike, etc.

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:01 pm

parallel wrote:He suggests killing three presidents, including Obama, it they get in the way of Israel's ambitions. Not just small fry like scientists.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/lo ... 0120-pm-pk

Hehe, killer kills and not writes publicly. Though as I know appeal to murder is punished by the law. If you the citizen of USA and know about crime call to police.

Also for you reference: Zionist is the man who states that all Jews should live in their historical motherland. Zionism movement has been created in West Belarus and West Ukraine at the end of 19th century and many Jews went that time to Palestine. Zionists were much more peaceful people than e.g. European colonists immigrated to America. As they went to Palestine without any weapon together with their families, without any intend to make any violence and as a rule bought the land and processed that.

BTW

The aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln arrived in the Arabian Sea on Thursday, Navy officials said, a likely prelude to testing Iran's recent warning against sending a U.S. carrier through the Strait of Hormuz.

The Lincoln joins the USS Carl Vinson, already in the region, returning the U.S. Navy its standard two-carrier presence there. The carrier USS John Stennis left in the past few days and is now traveling back through the western Pacific.

The Lincoln's arrival puts into place all the elements for a U.S. carrier to travel back into the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz for the first time since recent tensions with Iran escalated.

And what is Iran's recent warning?
Something like: "We warn not enter to Strait and notification we make only once"
It is very interesting for me now will Commander of Iranian Navy will swallow back his words?

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:12 pm

Joseph Chikva

Hehe, killer kills and not writes publicly.

But if Iran does that it is different?
Can't say that I found it funny.

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:26 pm

parallel wrote:Joseph Chikva
Hehe, killer kills and not writes publicly.
But if Iran does that it is different?
Can't say that I found it funny.

No. We all know that Iran unlike that "Zionist" has some power and some resources. Iran tries to play leader role in Islamic world exploiting hate to Jews (calling all Jews as "Zionists"), threatens US Navy, threatens whole world to close Straight of Ormuz stopping oil supply from e.g. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Etc.
He threatens and can do that. Unlike to that Rebe or Zionist or someone else who can nothing except bla-bla.
I hope you need not explanation of significancy of oil supply stability for the country consuming as I know 8 millions barrels daily.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:12 am

parallel wrote:Joseph Chikva
Hehe, killer kills and not writes publicly.
But if Iran does that it is different?
Can't say that I found it funny.

As I saw on CNN the guy is starting to get beat down about it. Before it is done, I imagine he will be out of a job.

Poor judgement. Maybe he was high?

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:23 am

Joseph Chikva wrote:And what is Iran's recent warning?
Something like: "We warn not enter to Strait and notification we make only once"
It is very interesting for me now will Commander of Iranian Navy will swallow back his words?

Well, they have swallowed their words back: http://news.yahoo.com/iran-says-u-prese ... 21057.html

"U.S. warships and military forces have been in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East region for many years and their decision in relation to the dispatch of a new warship is not a new issue and it should be interpreted as part of their permanent presence," Revolutionary Guard Deputy Commander Hossein Salami told the official IRNA news agency.

So, more likely that we will not see a new war in near future. And that is good.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:09 pm

But they are developing a new "semi-smart" micro submarine powered by nuts.

http://isna.ir/isna/NewsView.aspx?ID=Ne ... 979&Lang=E

I wonder if the squirrels have individual scuba, or reside in a compartment?

I love these little news-snippets, they sound so great in the titles, then you find that it is a toy, just like the many built by hobby guys in the rest of the planet. Although, I have to admit the squirrel idea is brilliant. I wonder if the squirrels stop and pray five times a day? Hinder to warfare that.

here is another, a "multi-purpose UAV":
http://isna.ir/isna/NewsView.aspx?ID=Ne ... 089&Lang=E

Giggle.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:45 pm

Potatoe Heads...

Lawmaker Mohammad Ismail Kowsari, deputy head of Iran's influential committee on national security, said the strait "would definitely be closed if the sale of Iranian oil is violated in any way."

Kowsari claimed that in case of the strait's closure, the U.S. and its allies would not be able to reopen the route, and warned America not to attempt any "military adventurism."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/23 ... sanctions/

Three points:
a.) Definite fightin' words (or action)
b.) No chance they can keep it closed, nor have a military (IRGC Included) survive the attempt.
c.) It remains to be seen that if during the fight, nuclear facilities are taken out. I would guess yes, as it would be convenient to do so.

Edit: My nemeses; spelling and typing

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:26 pm

The US has currently 3 supercarriers in the area...
http://gizmodo.com/5878393/you-dont-see ... -every-day
I know who I would bet my money on!

Joseph Chikva · Post by **Joseph Chikva** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:44 pm

ladajo wrote:here is another, a "multi-purpose UAV":
http://isna.ir/isna/NewsView.aspx?ID=Ne ... 089&Lang=E

Giggle.

The final cost for Shir Dal multipurpose UAVs would be about $ 50 thousands,” ...

Funny
As only this: http://elbitsystems.com/Elbitmain/files/AMPS.pdf stabilized payload costs several millions USD.
This: http://elbitsystems.com/Elbitmain/files ... 20Comp.pdf costs about half of million.
I believe that Iranian can make similar with lower cost.

There is not a problem to build airframe. Yes, that can be built in several thousands or several tens of thousands depending on sizes.
But control system and mainly optic? From where Iranian got those? As after 2008 Russia herself is buying UAVs from Israel.

And reading "nuts" we should consider "knots"?

KitemanSA · Post by **KitemanSA** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:00 pm

Joseph Chikva wrote:And reading "nuts" we should consider "knots"?

I don't think so. They stated 10 nuts per second. Knots is already a velocity, and 10 nautical miles per second is well beyond ANY submersible. Maybe the Iranians have a special (non-SI) length equal to the width of a testicle and that is the basis for their "nuts per second" speed.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:24 pm

I am going with nuts. I am considering at this point the type of nuts. I believe that it matters. Especially in burst speed applications.

KitemanSA · Post by **KitemanSA** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:18 am

ladajo wrote:Potatoe Heads...
Edit: My nemeses; spelling and typing

Potatoe? Dan? Dan Quayle? Is that you?