Lying About Birth Certificates.

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Diogenes
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Betruger wrote:Pretty much everything anyone says is biased. Sounds like a truism, but considering your denounciation of Hollywood as the evil here, it's not. Every news service is biased to some degree in some direction, every movie is idealized or unrealistic or misleading in some way, just as any work of fiction is flawed to some non-negligible extent in that way. Every work of fiction is a disappointment if you expect it to render and explain everything perfectly, as it really is. If you're reading a book or watching a movie or talking to someone and aren't taking it all with a grain of salt, with a grip kept on everything else directly and indirectly related to the matter, you're jumping down the rabbit hole with both feet all on your own. Hollywood didn't make you do it.

Children need more, not less, clashing ideas. The more vividly rendered and more poignant and engaging the ideas and consequent inner and outer debate between those ideas, the better.
And Hollywood is a commercial entity. What else should be expected? They have no responsibility whatsoever. Just like the news groups. Effectively like government. You get what you pay/vote for.

I guess i'm just not explaining this clearly.

This reminds me of that old joke about "If you can still smile, then you just don't understand the situation."

Never mind. Yes, the emperor has a very nice set of clothes.

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Post by Betruger »

Another cop out.
I... don't like Obama. I'm nowhere near left leaning, I have zero taste for collectivism for its own sake, I despise waste and public apathy towards education's and science's relevance to pretty much everything the public holds dear, and towards the working of their own govt, etc. None of the above makes me smile. The emperor has no clothes and the reason (IMO) there's barely any fuss about it is that most people have no clothes either.
So really we should be agreeing on most things.

The problem is in the details. Maybe you can start with one particular. E.G. what your disagreement is on the media having zero responsibility to be admirably impartial. Or how it's anyone's but the public's responsibility to shape commercial entities' output, with their buying power.

IntLibber
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Re: Lying About Birth Certificates.

Post by IntLibber »

Roger wrote:
Diogenes wrote: everything BUT Fox news is firmly in the hands of Liberals

I am a liberal, I see EVERY SINGLE network proffing up NOTHING but the right wing agenda but for 3 shows, Bill Moyers, Racheal Maddow and Kieth Olberman.

SO you have one network you think is OK, I dont even have one network.
Sure you do, you've got PBS, and NPR.... and I believe Pravda is still in operation...;)

Keith Olberman is a walking poster boy for toxo plasmosis.

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Bill requiring citizenship proof for presidential contenders passes House committee
PHOENIX — The House Government Committee voted Tuesday to require presidential contenders to prove to Arizona's secretary of state they're "natural born citizens" to get their names on the ballot.

The 6-1 vote came on the proposal by Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, who said it's only fair to require those who want to lead our country prove they meet the standards of the U.S. Constitution. She said that, at the very least, it means producing a birth certificate.

http://www.azstarnet.com/news/state-and ... 002e0.html



This is exactly what we are trying to do in Oklahoma. We have Ten Democrat legislators who are currently obstructing the bill.

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I also discovered this today.



1. DOH Director Fukino illegally hid until Nov 2009 the DOH Administrative Rules showing that election officials could have received a copy of Obama’s original birth certificate without his permission. The DOH has said they can’t release any records without Obama’s permission. But HRS 338-18(a) allows state laws and DOH rules to govern the disclosure of vital records, and the current rules -Chapter 8b, 2.5(A)(1)(f) -would allow any election officer transacting the placement of Obama’s name on the ballot to receive a certified copy.


http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/20 ... -hawaii-2/

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Hawaii Birth Index shows no Obama

In response to the evasive denials of my original UIPA request, and the outright claim I has written what I did not write, Miss Janice Okubo admitted to me last week, that microfiches of the Hawaii Birth Index did exist, and that they did not contain the said surnames.


http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/ ... stigation/

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Arizona House passes “Birther” bill
B. The national political party committee for a candidate for president for a party that is entitled to continued representation on the ballot shall provide to the secretary of state written notice of that political party’s nomination of its candidates for president and vice‑president. Within ten days after submittal of the names of the candidates, the national political party committee shall submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate’s citizenship and age and shall append to the affidavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate’s age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States as prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States.

C. The secretary of state shall review the affidavit and other documents submitted by the national political party committee and, if the secretary of state has reasonable cause to believe that the candidate does not meet the citizenship, age and residency requirements prescribed by law, the secretary of state shall not place that candidate’s name on the ballot.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/21/a ... ther-bill/

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