Whats happening in Turkey

[Skipjack]

So the corrupt islamofascist, Erdogan has first taken down Twitter and now youtube. They did that after someone leaked a recording of a meeting between senior staff of the Turkish government discussing a false flag attack on Turkish soil in order to get support for starting a war with Syria. They were willing to sacrifice several dozen Turkish soldiers in the process. From what I understand Erdogan was going to use support from Al Quaida for the false flag attack and then claim that John Kerry was supporting his decision to attack Syria in retaliation to get support among the Turkish people. Erdogan has made claims of support by US officials before in order to appear strong, which then were clearly debunked as lies.
The recording is still on YouTube and it is legit. A Turkish coworker of mine checked it out and it is clearly legit. Erdogan did that in order to regain support from the Turkish people for upcoming elections. He has lost support among the Turkish population after corruption involving him and several members of the Turkish government became known. A first recording of a phone call of him discussing hiding embezzled money with his son was published a few weeks ago. Western media has been reporting very little about this corruption deep within the Turkish government, an important NATO ally. There has been very vague reporting about the false flag attack so far among Western media. CNN talks about officials discussing "military strategies for Syria" making this a national security issue for Turkey. Yeah sure it is! Staging a war with Syria indeed is a national security issue! Unbelievable! What a bunch of crooks, everywhere!

[choff]

If that's all true then what other conspiracies are real, funny, I don't feel so all alone wearing an aluminum foil hat anymore.

[kunkmiester]

I haven't felt bad about a few conspiracy theories since the NSA thing broke. Conspiracy theorists have talked of the NSA Doing that since the 80s. If they were right about that, what else is there?

[mvanwink5]

I haven't felt bad about a few conspiracy theories since the NSA thing broke.

Got that right, I am proud to wear my tin foil hat these days thanks to Snowden.

[Skipjack]

Well, Erdogans party won the election, again, despite all the scandals. I cant believe it. These people are so dumb and so many of them are in Germany and Austria

[choff]

Are the opposition parties even worse?

[ladajo]

No. The issue is that AKP figured out it is easier to buy the countryside than the cities.
The vote distribution is interesting. There are also widespread commentary on ballot stuffing and theft by AKP. Ankara is being re-counted it was so close.
The margins that AKP enjoyed in Instanbul and Ankara are narrowing. In Ankara as noted, it was close enough to cause a recount. As I recall they came in at .2% difference.
Izmir went even harder over to the opposition.
It is important to remember that this cycle was for local only, mayors and such. The real test is late summer with the nationals.

[hanelyp]

A recount in a very close election... watch out for "found" ballots.

[choff]

Was listening to an interview of Sybil Edmonds, CIA whistleblower and translator. She was saying it sounds like a crude splicing together of separate recorded conversations taken out of context, probably done by the opposition, hardly anybody in Turkey fooled by it.

[ladajo]

Which one?
My wife is Turkish, and has listened to them and she says they are not fake. Before she listened to them she thought they may have been made up.
I am not sure if she has listened to all of what was released. But I will ask her.

[choff]

Interesting, we either have a fake CIA whistleblower or a false false flag. Reminds me I was listening to an interview of this elderly academic. The guy said back in the day he provided key data to promote the feminist movement, and he made stuff up to promote the cause. Now that he's crossed over to and supports the men's rights movement, how can you tell if he's not making up even more stuff.

Who to believe these days?

[Skipjack]

Was listening to an interview of Sybil Edmonds, CIA whistleblower and translator. She was saying it sounds like a crude splicing together of separate recorded conversations taken out of context, probably done by the opposition, hardly anybody in Turkey fooled by it.

Nonsense! All the Turkish people that I talked to, say it is real! I have listened to it myself and it does sound like a real conversation. Besides, it is totally something I would believe Erdogan to do. He is a moron! Anyway, the election went badly and the Turks in Austria and Germany were celebrating in the streets, vandalizing churches. My Turkish friend here says: They are the kind of Turks we don't even want in Turkey." Well I say, everyone who voted for the islamofascist Erdogan, out of my frick country!!!!

[Betruger]

Skip you don't sound totally impartial.

[Skipjack]

How can I be impartial to islamofascism and islamofascists? They are everywhere and it is spreading like a cancer.

[Betruger]

Impartial evaluation of empirical evidence.