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Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:20 pm
by choff
Heard the claim that coal ash contains 13 times more energy from the Thorium in it than the actual coal that was burned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2wa6Pk ... AxFmee1oSA

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:44 pm
by hanelyp
I've heard that ash from coal releases far more radioactivity than a reasonably operated nuclear facility.

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:23 am
by KitemanSA
My recollection is that the values are 5X from uranium and ~7X from thorium. I might be misremembering a bit.

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:53 am
by paperburn1
That of course does not include a "meltdown"

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:59 am
by KitemanSA
A melt-down isn't a "reasonably operating nuclear facility". But actually, it should include a meltdown, just not a dispersive hydrogen explosion.

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:33 pm
by JLawson
KitemanSA wrote:A melt-down isn't a "reasonably operating nuclear facility". But actually, it should include a meltdown, just not a dispersive hydrogen explosion.
Besides, meltdowns are usually caused by something going stupidly wrong (as in Chernobyl and TMI) or catastrophically wrong (such as Fukushima, where the design was ALMOST good enough to withstand an earthquake and tsunami an order of magnitude greater than it was designed for) - and we've learned from mistakes.

After all, it doesn't take much to harden a reactor in Germany against tsunamis...

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:34 pm
by ladajo
TMI is not even near the same league as the other two.

Re: Coal ash contains 13 times more Thorium Energy than Coal

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:17 pm
by KitemanSA
ladajo wrote:TMI is not even near the same league as the other two.
IIRC, the only real difference between TMI and Fuku is that at TMI, someone had the stacks to say FU and vent the H2 outdoors rather than letting it accumulate to explosive levels within the containment.