Us Didn't Sign Kyoto, But meets target anyway

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Jccarlton
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Us Didn't Sign Kyoto, But meets target anyway

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Technology beats regulation, again:
http://www.eia.gov/environment/emission ... rc=home-b2
The fact is that combined cycle gas turbine is more efficient than a conventional coal fired Rankine cycle plant and that result in more Joules/C. Once fracking made natural gas abundant again the switch was obvious.

Schneibster
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Re: Us Didn't Sign Kyoto, But meets target anyway

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Kyoto is nice but meaningless unless China and India help.

I mean, yay good for us for meeting targets and stuff, but we're not the ones poised to create the problem anyway, we probably met the targets because we're having a bad economy. (Now that is a really bad model.)

The big problem is if we all (or even a majority of us) build out coal plants and burn all that coal.

We should burn all the uranium and have a nuclear accident every twenty years and a terrorist nuclear attack every fifty and it wouldn't be as bad as it will be if we burn all that coal.

When I say "We" I mean humans. Face what will happen if we burn this coal. Comprehend the cause of the second and third worst mass extinctions in the history of the Earth, in the Cambrian. Let's use up the uranium first. It's a lot safer even if we have several accidents a century.
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Re: Us Didn't Sign Kyoto, But meets target anyway

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Jccarlton wrote:Technology beats regulation, again:
http://www.eia.gov/environment/emission ... rc=home-b2
The fact is that combined cycle gas turbine is more efficient than a conventional coal fired Rankine cycle plant and that result in more Joules/C. Once fracking made natural gas abundant again the switch was obvious.

And it suggests that these green kooks would be more useful to humanity if they spent more time doing engineering to improve efficiency than they do screeching at everybody.


But they are kooks, so what can you expect?
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —

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