Anything climate related, go to Watts first. They will have links to papers, rebuttals and discussions with actual scientists. That includes papers where we have satellite data for periods when there were no satellites:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/18/c ... by-humans/
Those Union Army vets had a great rocket program.
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Watts lies. This has been proven over and over on this forum. Why you keep spamming Watts' BS I cannot imagine; you are sacrificing your honor doing it though.
Spam reported.
Spam reported.
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Re: If You Want The Data Quick Go To Watts
Behavior and misuse of spam function reported. People who live by the sword will die by the sword. And if you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks at other people.Schneibster wrote:Watts lies. This has been proven over and over on this forum. Why you keep spamming Watts' BS I cannot imagine; you are sacrificing your honor doing it though.
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http://www.desmogblog.com/anthony-wattsJccarlton wrote:Behavior and misuse of spam function reported. People who live by the sword will die by the sword. And if you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks at other people.Schneibster wrote:Watts lies. This has been proven over and over on this forum. Why you keep spamming Watts' BS I cannot imagine; you are sacrificing your honor doing it though.
Spam reported.
It's not me. Get over it.Credentials
Anthony Watts studied Electrical Engineering and Meteorology at Purdue University, but has been unwilling to state whether he graduated. [1], [2]
He is a former television meteorologist.
Meanwhile, system gaming reported. Don't report stuff for revenge. You'll deserve to get in trouble. Whiners always deserve to get in trouble.
Not to mention, what are you whining about? Are you Watts?
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I'm reporting your behavior, as I was told to do. It's not for revenge. You had the code of behavior pointed out to you virtually from the time you first started posting and you have ignored them. Now you have declared some my posts as spam, when they were not, as they contained no advertising. That's a misuse of the spam report system. Which is what I reported. I also reported that you have used abusive language and called many people liars, repeatedly. Now I did not start using the report system until after you did, true. but once you opened that door, you had to know that anybody else was going to use it. Maybe you don't fully understand, but you give people SO much to report. I would look back at all the stuff you've been spreading over this board and think how many of us you have called liars, cranks and other names. Think about it. You haven't made very many friends here. It doesn't pay to be a rules lawyer if you have no authority and break all the rules. Now as who the whiner is, who goes running off to report every little thing that he doesn't like, poor little baby. What a wuss, you think you can dish it out but boy get in the kitchen and you can't stand the heat.Schneibster wrote:http://www.desmogblog.com/anthony-wattsJccarlton wrote:Behavior and misuse of spam function reported. People who live by the sword will die by the sword. And if you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks at other people.Schneibster wrote:Watts lies. This has been proven over and over on this forum. Why you keep spamming Watts' BS I cannot imagine; you are sacrificing your honor doing it though.
Spam reported.
It's not me. Get over it.Credentials
Anthony Watts studied Electrical Engineering and Meteorology at Purdue University, but has been unwilling to state whether he graduated. [1], [2]
He is a former television meteorologist.
Meanwhile, system gaming reported. Don't report stuff for revenge. You'll deserve to get in trouble. Whiners always deserve to get in trouble.
Not to mention, what are you whining about? Are you Watts?
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Sorry, I think you're spamming and trying to start a fight.
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And just so we're clear: I don't respect "codes" that permit lying.
You abrogated any code when you lied, as far as I'm concerned. Lying is unethical.
You abrogated any code when you lied, as far as I'm concerned. Lying is unethical.
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.
Re: If You Want The Data Quick Go To Watts
Watts presents data in a sensible and comprehensive fashion. It is light years ahead of the kook squad, who's jester has lately been showing up and demonstrating why sharp objects need to be kept away from him.
Non-idiots understand what these charts means to the Globull warming con.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/21/a ... re-part-2/
Probably the best that scheißkopf can manage is: " Oooooooohhhhhh! Those charts look all Scientificy! Look at the pretty colors!"
Non-idiots understand what these charts means to the Globull warming con.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/21/a ... re-part-2/
Probably the best that scheißkopf can manage is: " Oooooooohhhhhh! Those charts look all Scientificy! Look at the pretty colors!"
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
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Your own graphs give you the lie.
Look at the 4µm line of CO2. Note it falls in a trough in the water spectrum.
That alone is enough to prove you wrong if you maintain CO2 doesn't cause global warming. That line alone is sufficient to prove you wrong, and there are three others that are also active in the region of interest.
Oops.
Look at the 4µm line of CO2. Note it falls in a trough in the water spectrum.
That alone is enough to prove you wrong if you maintain CO2 doesn't cause global warming. That line alone is sufficient to prove you wrong, and there are three others that are also active in the region of interest.
Oops.
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.
Re: If You Want The Data Quick Go To Watts
Eh? Watts that you say?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
Probably just as well. All I get from you is a bunch of bamboo chimes banging together in the wind.
(Illustrations included for the benefit of the simpleminded.)
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
Probably just as well. All I get from you is a bunch of bamboo chimes banging together in the wind.
(Illustrations included for the benefit of the simpleminded.)
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
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Watch out, he is going to repot you for being on topic.Diogenes wrote:Eh? Watts that you say?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
Probably just as well. All I get from you is a bunch of bamboo chimes banging together in the wind.
(Illustrations included for the benefit of the simpleminded.)
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At this point Watts is thoroughly and repeatedly discredited. He has no degrees; his only credential is obsolete.
His last job was to help big tobacco avoid lawsuits for the medical bills for all the people they addicted to tobacco who got heart disease and cancer.
Just so we're clear here.
http://www.desmogblog.com/anthony-watts
Sourcewatch is extremely direct:
http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Watts
His last job was to help big tobacco avoid lawsuits for the medical bills for all the people they addicted to tobacco who got heart disease and cancer.
Just so we're clear here.
http://www.desmogblog.com/anthony-watts
Sourcewatch is extremely direct:
http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Watts
I think I'll call him "Willard" from now on.Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a blogger, weathercaster and non-scientist, paid AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat.com. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. His website is parodied and debunked at the website wottsupwiththat.com Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries.[1]
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.
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Source watch and desmog. Where to go for accurate delusions, smears and disinformation funded and run by the nicest people:
http://sppiblog.org/news/the-truth-abou ... ourchwatch
DeSmogBlog is a smear site founded by a scientifically unqualified public relations man, James Hoggan and funded by a convicted money launderer, John Lefebvre. The irony here is their favorite tactic is to attempt to smear those they disagree with as funded by “dirty money”. Since it’s creation in 2006 the site has done nothing but post poorly researched propaganda with a clear intent to smear respected scientists, policy analysts or groups who dares oppose an alarmist position on global warming. Their articles frequently reference unreliable sources such as Wikipedia and Sourcewatch since they are unable to find any fact based criticisms of those they criticize in respected news sources.
James Hoggan
About Us (DeSmogBlog)
“The DeSmogBlog team is led by Jim Hoggan, founder of James Hoggan & Associates, one of Canada’s leading public relations firms.”
Who is James Hoggan? (Financial Post, Canada, June 5, 2008)
“So who is James Hoggan? He’s a public relations man, based in Vancouver. His firm, James Hoggan and Associates, is positioned as a feel-good local operation with clients in all the “right” public and private sectors. He also sits on the board of the David Suzuki Foundation.
One of his side efforts is a blog operated out of Hoggan and Associates. Funded by retired Internet bubble king John Lefebvre, the blog has one full-time and three part-time staff. They spend their time tracking down and maliciously attacking all who have doubts about climate change and painting them as corporate pawns.
There has been no mention on the blog, nor on The Fifth Estate, of James Hoggan’s client list. They include or have included the National Hydrogen Association, Fuel Cells Canada, hydrogen producer QuestAir, Naikun Wind Energy and Ballard Fuel Cells. Mr. Hoggan, in other words, benefits from regulatory policy based on climate change science.”
John Lefebvre
About Us (DeSmogBlog)
“The DeSmogBlog team is especially grateful to our benefactor John Lefebvre, a lawyer, internet entrepreneur and past-president of NETeller, a firm that has been providing secure online transactions since 1999.”
Blog Funder Guilty of Money-Laundering (Heartland Institute, February 1, 2008)
“John Lefebvre, the top financial benefactor of the DeSmog Blog, is facing substantial prison time after pleading guilty to federal money-laundering charges. The DeSmog Blog is operated by a small group of public relations people who specialize in attempting to discredit respected scientists and policy analysts who disagree with alarmist global warming theory. Ironically, DeSmog Blog’s favorite tactic is to claim scientists and policy analysts who disagree with alarmist global warming theory are funded by “dirty money.” The revelation of the blog’s major source of funding as a convicted money launderer may undermine DeSmog’s attempts to smear the integrity of respected, law-abiding scientists who disagree with them.”
Ex-NETeller exec pleads guilty in gambling case (Reuters, January 10, 2007)
“A former president and co-founder of payment processor NETeller pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a conspiracy charge related to handling billions of dollars in illegal gambling proceeds.“
NETeller ex-directors on money laundering charges (Reuters, January 16, 2007)
“Two former directors and founding shareholders of NETeller Plc [Stephen Lawrence, John Lefebvre], a British online money transfer company, have been charged in the United States with laundering billions of dollars in illegal gambling proceeds.
SPPI NOTE: Russell Cook details Sheldon Rampton’s highly troublesome ties to DeSmogBlog’s Ross Gelbspan in his Breitbart.com articles, “How an Enviro-Advocacy Group Propped Up Global Warming in the MSM” and “Global Warming Nuisance Lawsuits Are Based on a Fatal Flaw“. Anti-skeptic book author Gelbspan has blogged at DeSmogBlog ever since its start back in January 2006, and is one of the central figures Cook details in his SPPI original paper, “Are Skeptic Scientists Corrupt? Or Does the Accusation Fall Apart Under Hard Scrutiny?“
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SourceWatch
SPPI note: CMD is funded by radical leftist George Soros
See: http://sppiblog.org/?s=soros&Submit=Go
•Online “encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda”
A project of the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), SourceWatch describes itself as an “encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda.” The subjects of these entries are individuals, issues, and organizations whose objectives and ideologies run the entire left-to-right political gamut.
SourceWatch also seeks to expose what it calls the “propaganda activities of public relations firms” and the activities of organizations working “on behalf of corporations, governments and special interests.” These “exposes,” which tend to be critical of their subjects, deal predominantly with conservative entities.
Founded in 2003 under the name Disinfopedia, SourceWatch (which took its current name in 2005) reports that from April 2006 to April 2007 it received some 73 million page views. As of April 2007, the SourceWatch database contained more than 15,600 entries.
As with the online reference Wikipedia, the contents of SourceWatch are written and edited by ordinary Web users. Says SourceWatch: “You don’t need any special credentials to participate — we shun credentialism along with other propaganda techniques.” While stating that it seeks to maintain fairness in the profiles and articles appearing on its website, SourceWatch does acknowledge that “ignoring systemic bias and claiming objectivity is itself one of many well-known propaganda techniques.”
The SourceWatch database is composed (as of early May 2007) of some 612 topics, 27 of which are classified as “main topics.” These include: Academia, Activism, Aviation, Communication, Corruption, Countries, Economics, Environment, Events, Government, Health, Human Rights, Ideologies, Industry, Information and Privacy, International Issues, Issues, Lists, Media, Organizations, People, Politics, Religion, Site Administration, Sociology, Sources, and War/Peace. Within each of these categories, SourceWatch provides information on related groups, individuals, and issues of concern. The perspectives are mostly leftist; the entries rely heavily on leftist and far-leftist sources.
Consider for instance the “Activism” category, wherein there is an article depicting expressions of concern about violent acts of ecoterrorism as nothing more than right-wing fear-mongering and selective outrage: “Since 1990, there have been numerous attempts by industry front groups, PR firms and conservative think-tanks … to associate environmental activism with terrorism. … While conservative groups routinely denounce both peaceful protests and vandalism as the equivalent of terrorism, they remain silent about violent attacks against environmentalists and animal rights activists.”
Most of SourceWatch’s “Human Rights” category focuses on allegations of U.S.-perpetrated prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.
In the category titled “Axis of Evil,” SourceWatch derides President George W. Bush’s use of that term in reference to Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. Declares SourceWatch: “To say that these nations are ‘evil’ depends in part on your theology and in part on your politics. There is no question that Iran, Iraq and North Korea have all committed significant violations of human rights, although Iran has recently been undergoing internal democratization (a process that may be disrupted as the U.S. invasion of Iraq fans the flames of Islamic fundamentalism). The singling out of these particular nations as evil, however, invites the question of why the Bush administration failed to include U.S.-supported nations that violate human rights on a similar scale, such as Saudi Arabia or Egypt …In reality, ‘axis of evil’ is a term used to stigmatize countries against which the U.S. contemplates military action in the near future.”
The section on Hurricane Katrina focuses heavily on the Bush administration’s alleged indifference to the crisis. For example, one entry quotes Michael Giltz of AMERICAblog, who wrote in September 2005: “When the worst natural disaster in our nation’s history attacked us, George Bush STAYED ON VACATION … in Crawford, Texas. … [And] vice president Dick Cheney STAYED ON VACATION in Jackson, Wyoming. … Sec[retary] of State Condi Rice WENT ON VACATION in New York City and went to a splashy Broadway musical and bought obscenely expensive shoes. She went shopping …”
Consider also how SourceWatch describes the organization Holy Land Trust (HLT), which spreads false propaganda about Jews robbing Arab lands and brutalizing Arabs in a repressive state of military occupation. Rather than mention any of these facts, SourceWatch merely cites HLT’s self-description as “a Palestinian not-for-profit organization established … to promote and support the Palestinian community in its struggle … to achieve political independence … and … to assist in building an independent Palestine that is founded on the principles of nonviolence, democracy, respect for human rights and the peaceful resolution of conflicts.”
The founder of SourceWatch is Sheldon Rampton, who also serves as CMD’s Research Director. Rampton was formerly an outreach coordinator for the Wisconsin Coordinating Council on Nicaragua, a group established in 1984 to oppose President Reagan’s efforts to stop the spread of Communism in Central America, and currently dedicated to promoting a leftist vision of “social justice in Nicaragua through alternative models of development and activism.”
Although its profiles and articles are user-created, SourceWatch employs an editor, Bob Burton, to oversee the project. Prior to his work at SourceWatch, Burton served as a researcher and campaigner on environmental issues for the Wilderness Society in Australia. He is the co-author of Secrets and Lies: The Anatomy of an Anti-Environmental PR Campaign.
Frankly the biggest argument against AGW is the people and organizations who advocate it.
http://sppiblog.org/news/the-truth-abou ... ourchwatch
DeSmogBlog is a smear site founded by a scientifically unqualified public relations man, James Hoggan and funded by a convicted money launderer, John Lefebvre. The irony here is their favorite tactic is to attempt to smear those they disagree with as funded by “dirty money”. Since it’s creation in 2006 the site has done nothing but post poorly researched propaganda with a clear intent to smear respected scientists, policy analysts or groups who dares oppose an alarmist position on global warming. Their articles frequently reference unreliable sources such as Wikipedia and Sourcewatch since they are unable to find any fact based criticisms of those they criticize in respected news sources.
James Hoggan
About Us (DeSmogBlog)
“The DeSmogBlog team is led by Jim Hoggan, founder of James Hoggan & Associates, one of Canada’s leading public relations firms.”
Who is James Hoggan? (Financial Post, Canada, June 5, 2008)
“So who is James Hoggan? He’s a public relations man, based in Vancouver. His firm, James Hoggan and Associates, is positioned as a feel-good local operation with clients in all the “right” public and private sectors. He also sits on the board of the David Suzuki Foundation.
One of his side efforts is a blog operated out of Hoggan and Associates. Funded by retired Internet bubble king John Lefebvre, the blog has one full-time and three part-time staff. They spend their time tracking down and maliciously attacking all who have doubts about climate change and painting them as corporate pawns.
There has been no mention on the blog, nor on The Fifth Estate, of James Hoggan’s client list. They include or have included the National Hydrogen Association, Fuel Cells Canada, hydrogen producer QuestAir, Naikun Wind Energy and Ballard Fuel Cells. Mr. Hoggan, in other words, benefits from regulatory policy based on climate change science.”
John Lefebvre
About Us (DeSmogBlog)
“The DeSmogBlog team is especially grateful to our benefactor John Lefebvre, a lawyer, internet entrepreneur and past-president of NETeller, a firm that has been providing secure online transactions since 1999.”
Blog Funder Guilty of Money-Laundering (Heartland Institute, February 1, 2008)
“John Lefebvre, the top financial benefactor of the DeSmog Blog, is facing substantial prison time after pleading guilty to federal money-laundering charges. The DeSmog Blog is operated by a small group of public relations people who specialize in attempting to discredit respected scientists and policy analysts who disagree with alarmist global warming theory. Ironically, DeSmog Blog’s favorite tactic is to claim scientists and policy analysts who disagree with alarmist global warming theory are funded by “dirty money.” The revelation of the blog’s major source of funding as a convicted money launderer may undermine DeSmog’s attempts to smear the integrity of respected, law-abiding scientists who disagree with them.”
Ex-NETeller exec pleads guilty in gambling case (Reuters, January 10, 2007)
“A former president and co-founder of payment processor NETeller pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a conspiracy charge related to handling billions of dollars in illegal gambling proceeds.“
NETeller ex-directors on money laundering charges (Reuters, January 16, 2007)
“Two former directors and founding shareholders of NETeller Plc [Stephen Lawrence, John Lefebvre], a British online money transfer company, have been charged in the United States with laundering billions of dollars in illegal gambling proceeds.
SPPI NOTE: Russell Cook details Sheldon Rampton’s highly troublesome ties to DeSmogBlog’s Ross Gelbspan in his Breitbart.com articles, “How an Enviro-Advocacy Group Propped Up Global Warming in the MSM” and “Global Warming Nuisance Lawsuits Are Based on a Fatal Flaw“. Anti-skeptic book author Gelbspan has blogged at DeSmogBlog ever since its start back in January 2006, and is one of the central figures Cook details in his SPPI original paper, “Are Skeptic Scientists Corrupt? Or Does the Accusation Fall Apart Under Hard Scrutiny?“
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SourceWatch
SPPI note: CMD is funded by radical leftist George Soros
See: http://sppiblog.org/?s=soros&Submit=Go
•Online “encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda”
A project of the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD), SourceWatch describes itself as an “encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda.” The subjects of these entries are individuals, issues, and organizations whose objectives and ideologies run the entire left-to-right political gamut.
SourceWatch also seeks to expose what it calls the “propaganda activities of public relations firms” and the activities of organizations working “on behalf of corporations, governments and special interests.” These “exposes,” which tend to be critical of their subjects, deal predominantly with conservative entities.
Founded in 2003 under the name Disinfopedia, SourceWatch (which took its current name in 2005) reports that from April 2006 to April 2007 it received some 73 million page views. As of April 2007, the SourceWatch database contained more than 15,600 entries.
As with the online reference Wikipedia, the contents of SourceWatch are written and edited by ordinary Web users. Says SourceWatch: “You don’t need any special credentials to participate — we shun credentialism along with other propaganda techniques.” While stating that it seeks to maintain fairness in the profiles and articles appearing on its website, SourceWatch does acknowledge that “ignoring systemic bias and claiming objectivity is itself one of many well-known propaganda techniques.”
The SourceWatch database is composed (as of early May 2007) of some 612 topics, 27 of which are classified as “main topics.” These include: Academia, Activism, Aviation, Communication, Corruption, Countries, Economics, Environment, Events, Government, Health, Human Rights, Ideologies, Industry, Information and Privacy, International Issues, Issues, Lists, Media, Organizations, People, Politics, Religion, Site Administration, Sociology, Sources, and War/Peace. Within each of these categories, SourceWatch provides information on related groups, individuals, and issues of concern. The perspectives are mostly leftist; the entries rely heavily on leftist and far-leftist sources.
Consider for instance the “Activism” category, wherein there is an article depicting expressions of concern about violent acts of ecoterrorism as nothing more than right-wing fear-mongering and selective outrage: “Since 1990, there have been numerous attempts by industry front groups, PR firms and conservative think-tanks … to associate environmental activism with terrorism. … While conservative groups routinely denounce both peaceful protests and vandalism as the equivalent of terrorism, they remain silent about violent attacks against environmentalists and animal rights activists.”
Most of SourceWatch’s “Human Rights” category focuses on allegations of U.S.-perpetrated prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.
In the category titled “Axis of Evil,” SourceWatch derides President George W. Bush’s use of that term in reference to Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. Declares SourceWatch: “To say that these nations are ‘evil’ depends in part on your theology and in part on your politics. There is no question that Iran, Iraq and North Korea have all committed significant violations of human rights, although Iran has recently been undergoing internal democratization (a process that may be disrupted as the U.S. invasion of Iraq fans the flames of Islamic fundamentalism). The singling out of these particular nations as evil, however, invites the question of why the Bush administration failed to include U.S.-supported nations that violate human rights on a similar scale, such as Saudi Arabia or Egypt …In reality, ‘axis of evil’ is a term used to stigmatize countries against which the U.S. contemplates military action in the near future.”
The section on Hurricane Katrina focuses heavily on the Bush administration’s alleged indifference to the crisis. For example, one entry quotes Michael Giltz of AMERICAblog, who wrote in September 2005: “When the worst natural disaster in our nation’s history attacked us, George Bush STAYED ON VACATION … in Crawford, Texas. … [And] vice president Dick Cheney STAYED ON VACATION in Jackson, Wyoming. … Sec[retary] of State Condi Rice WENT ON VACATION in New York City and went to a splashy Broadway musical and bought obscenely expensive shoes. She went shopping …”
Consider also how SourceWatch describes the organization Holy Land Trust (HLT), which spreads false propaganda about Jews robbing Arab lands and brutalizing Arabs in a repressive state of military occupation. Rather than mention any of these facts, SourceWatch merely cites HLT’s self-description as “a Palestinian not-for-profit organization established … to promote and support the Palestinian community in its struggle … to achieve political independence … and … to assist in building an independent Palestine that is founded on the principles of nonviolence, democracy, respect for human rights and the peaceful resolution of conflicts.”
The founder of SourceWatch is Sheldon Rampton, who also serves as CMD’s Research Director. Rampton was formerly an outreach coordinator for the Wisconsin Coordinating Council on Nicaragua, a group established in 1984 to oppose President Reagan’s efforts to stop the spread of Communism in Central America, and currently dedicated to promoting a leftist vision of “social justice in Nicaragua through alternative models of development and activism.”
Although its profiles and articles are user-created, SourceWatch employs an editor, Bob Burton, to oversee the project. Prior to his work at SourceWatch, Burton served as a researcher and campaigner on environmental issues for the Wilderness Society in Australia. He is the co-author of Secrets and Lies: The Anatomy of an Anti-Environmental PR Campaign.
Frankly the biggest argument against AGW is the people and organizations who advocate it.
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Re: If You Want The Data Quick Go To Watts
http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambli ... 46794.html
Oops. That means your source was lying. Bummer dude.
Apparently they were never prosecuted.Pursuant to the DPA, the Company has consented to the filing of a criminal information relating to transactions between Internet gambling merchants and persons located in the United States. The USAO has agreed to defer the prosecution of any federal charges and, as a consequence, the Company will not be convicted of any federal crime, as long the Company fulfils the set conditions of the DPA during the two year term of the agreement. At the conclusion of the two year term, the criminal information will be dismissed. The key terms of the DPA are set out in more detail later in this announcement. The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York has approved the deferral of the prosecution. As part of the DPA, the Company has also agreed to forfeit US$ 136 million to the United States. This amount includes the approximately US$ 60 million that the USAO has previously seized.
Oops. That means your source was lying. Bummer dude.
We need a directorate of science, and we need it to be voted on only by scientists. You don't get to vote on reality. Get over it. Elected officials that deny the findings of the Science Directorate are subject to immediate impeachment for incompetence.
Re: If You Want The Data Quick Go To Watts
Nope:Schneibster wrote:http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambli ... 46794.html
Apparently they were never prosecuted.Pursuant to the DPA, the Company has consented to the filing of a criminal information relating to transactions between Internet gambling merchants and persons located in the United States. The USAO has agreed to defer the prosecution of any federal charges and, as a consequence, the Company will not be convicted of any federal crime, as long the Company fulfils the set conditions of the DPA during the two year term of the agreement. At the conclusion of the two year term, the criminal information will be dismissed. The key terms of the DPA are set out in more detail later in this announcement. The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York has approved the deferral of the prosecution. As part of the DPA, the Company has also agreed to forfeit US$ 136 million to the United States. This amount includes the approximately US$ 60 million that the USAO has previously seized.
Oops. That means your source was lying. Bummer dude.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/07/1 ... 8620070711