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Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:11 pm
by Jccarlton
When you lie often enough people will figure it out and drop you. When you get in the habit of making stuff up yo do nothing but destroy any reputation you may have. Desmog has been caught over and over again, why anybody would believe the drivel that comes out of there is beyond me:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/15/d ... obscurity/
The lies become so obvious:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc ... te/253276/
Gleick and Gelbspan, is there a pattern here?
I think we can see a pattern:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/11/t ... ccusation/
Of course people who continually cite bad sources, well I don't think that they can be considered in any way other than fakers themselves. I don't think it matters if they continually repeat the lies due to ignorance or belief or because they want to spread the lies, they are still spreading the lie. When told the the truth, with documetnation and they claim that YOU are lying they become the worst sort of person possible.



Here's an example. of There was scary chart has been making the rounds claiming to be the spread of radioactive water from Fukushima. I had my doubts, mostly because the patterns were not following currents and I could think of no way of actually measuring such a small quantity of radioactive material. Turns out I was right to be skeptical:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fukushima.asp
I think that when you outright lie to advocate your cause maybe you need to realize that at some point people are going to realize what kind of lowlife you are.

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:25 pm
by Schneibster
Jccarlton wrote:When you lie often enough people will figure it out and drop you. When you get in the habit of making stuff up yo do nothing but destroy any reputation you may have. Desmog has been caught over and over again, why anybody would believe the drivel that comes out of there is beyond me:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/15/d ... obscurity/
Watts isn't even a college graduate; he's a television personality.

This is how the climate cranks always roll; they keep repeating the same lies over and over figuring since they've told fifteen or twenty other ones since you'll forget the older ones so they can keep denying forever.

Cheating, actually. And of course that's the correct quote: cheaters never prosper.

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:59 pm
by Jccarlton
The more you look into desmog:
http://www.energytribune.com/6994/desmo ... mZvrK.dpbs
The uglier they get.

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:01 pm
by Schneibster
I wasn't the one who cheated.

Just sayin'.

Meanwhile energyneverhadaprayerofbeingmainstreamtribune?

Really?

Really?

Is this like the ninja site I posted earlier? You know about how ninjas are ultra-cool and stuff and can totally kill SEALs no matter what some stupid admiral dude said?

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:08 pm
by Schneibster
What's next, Johnny Storm, The Human Torch from Marvel Comics says there's no global warming and you believe him?

You cite Marvel edition 171 from 1972 which details their sekrit origin?

And I don't have a clue because I never read it?

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:10 pm
by Jccarlton
The internet doesn't let you hide:
http://www.populartechnology.net/2011/0 ... gblog.html
There was a time where if you had a magazine or newsletter you could hide behind the amount of effort it took to expose you. Now when it's just seconds, that doesn't happen.

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:17 pm
by Schneibster
Jccarlton wrote:The internet doesn't let you hide:
http://www.populartechnology.net/2011/0 ... gblog.html
There was a time where if you had a magazine or newsletter you could hide behind the amount of effort it took to expose you. Now when it's just seconds, that doesn't happen.
Of all the things I hate the netsquatters irritate me the most.

Just so everyone's aware that is not Popular Science; nor is it associated with it. It's another denier site masquerading as a major magazine. In this case it's even more heinous because the particular magazine in question just had to shut its comments down due to climate denier hackers.

Re: Liars never prosper

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:21 am
by Schneibster
So, you know, nobody in either Britain or the US or Canada says "liars never prosper." Native English speakers always say "cheaters never prosper." There are many other sayings about liars, but "liars never prosper" is not one of them. I don't know whether Australians know the aphorism; but I think it predates the colonization of that continent by the British, so I expect they do, and if not from than then from cultural transmission by literature.

So where are you from really?

I'm gonna guess you're an Israeli Russian Jewish immigrant. This is just the kind of mistake one would make and it's more in character, given the subject matter, than for say a Russian, or an Iranian or Syrian, or even a Pakistani.

It's always amusing to be involved in a discussion with a bunch of supposedly super-hyper patriotic amurcnz and one of them turns out to be a foreigner. And yes it's typical. I remember catching a Pakistani, a Russian, and a Chinese Army hacker on the same thread on Foreign Policy magazine at the same time. None of them knew about the others. It was delicious. I laughed every time I thought about it for a week. Still do sometimes. When I left the Russian and the Chinese were ganging up on the Pakistani.