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If you see yourself in this, maybe you should rethink some things:
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... principle/

Quote me being "alarmist."

You haven't asked me what I think is going to happen. You have no idea whether I'm alarmist or not.

Schneibster wrote:Quote me being "alarmist."

Schneibster wrote:I am currently predicting between 2.5 and 3.5 human deaths as a result of climate change, divided among heat death in the tropics, starvation due to growing climate moving to infertile land, flooding, and mega-typhoons and -hurricanes, by the end of the century.

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I'll let everyone judge for themselves whether there is a word missing in the quoted sentence...

Teahive wrote:

Schneibster wrote:Quote me being "alarmist."

Schneibster wrote:I am currently predicting between 2.5 and 3.5 human deaths as a result of climate change, divided among heat death in the tropics, starvation due to growing climate moving to infertile land, flooding, and mega-typhoons and -hurricanes, by the end of the century.

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I'll let everyone judge for themselves whether there is a word missing in the quoted sentence...

You think that's alarmist? Seriously?

You do understand what I'm saying is there will be nine billion people on Earth instead of twelve billion, at the end of the century, right? Does that seem apocalyptic to you? Believe me, to the Earth-system it's nearly nothing; we probably won't even get the CO2 to 1000 ppm. The Earth-system has seen 7000 ppm and 160°F+ in the tropics; we're probably too scared, and will be too intimidated, to let it go that high. I'm a moderate.

You understand I'm talking slow bleeding, not a grand guignol with billions dying all at the same time. And there's a hundred years to work with. As for me I'm in my house on land I know won't be engulfed before I die, but is close to the sea I love. Après moi le déluge.

The crazies think it will exterminate the human race. I think they're crazies.

I mean there are even really, real crazies who think it could exterminate all life. I think they should be restrained and medicated before they hurt someone.

If you want to be afraid, think about viruses and mataglap nano. If anything kills us off it will likely be one of those, if it's not by our own hand with weapons of one sort or another, perhaps in the hands of terrorists.

Schneibster wrote:You think that's alarmist? Seriously?

Yes, I think that's alarmist, especially in the exaggerated sense.

Teahive wrote:

Schneibster wrote:You think that's alarmist? Seriously?

Yes, I think that's alarmist, especially in the exaggerated sense.

Really?

Projections have the equatorial temperature at noon on the equinox under the worst weather conditions at 135°F in the shade. Humans cannot survive that without air conditioning.

The growing area is going to move north, as the temperature rises, but the solar seasons aren't going to change. In other words, it will be hotter, but there won't be more sun. That means you'll be able to grow better wheat than you can now in Siberia and Canada, but not as much because the growing season is shorter farther north. Furthermore the farther north the less soil; it was all scraped south in the repeated glaciations of the current ice age. So that also means less wheat.

But the worst is rice. Places that grow rice will move north; and that's going to put billions on the Indian subcontinent, in Bangladesh, in
Pakistan, and in China at risk of starvation.

Next comes intensification of storms. This is already abundantly clear in the Pacific hurricane/typhoon season. For example, just a few weeks back, Mexico had hurricanes on both her Caribbean and Pacific coasts. These storms will be of the same types we have now, but will have increased intensity due to additional available heat to power them. I merely note that the damage hurricanes have done has been increasing in dollars with each storm, lately.

Then comes rising sea level. By 2100, New York can expect to be New Amsterdam in fact, and Amsterdam can expect to be gone.

No, climate isn't going to kill us. It's going to bleed us though.