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Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:37 pm
by Schneibster
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:44 pm
by Stubby
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:35 pm
by mvanwink5
That's govt for you, Polywell gets underfunded and the boondoggle ITER gets 10's of billions. When venture capital invests, however, they manage and fund their efforts with intelligence as evidenced by General Fusion and Tri Alpha, and they avoid the socialist twins, Repubs and Democs.
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:44 pm
by hanelyp
This conservative / registered republican is annoyed that the polywell is dependent on government funding.
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:26 am
by GIThruster
hanelyp wrote:This conservative / registered republican is annoyed that the polywell is dependent on government funding.
Moi aussi, but I would note to you that the entire project, start to finish; has always been open to private funding. If the Navy had not stepped in, it would likely still not be getting funding.
Kudos for the Navy. At least it is still a possible option for the future.
And obviously, one can note that each time funding has appeared, it was under Republican leadership.
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:31 am
by mvanwink5
That was ultimately Bussard's mistake. To avoid dealing with people he did not trust, he went with folks he thought he could trust, people who answer to bureaucrats and politicians. It has to be the the biggest and cruelest joke on the world, the idea of getting help from the government!
Oh, and the reason no private firm is investing is that the patent has been turned down, so no protection on the investment. If you don't buy this reason, ask yourself why is General Fusion and Tri Alpha getting the funding from venture capital and not Polywell? And remember Bussard turned down the private investments before turning to the Navy
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:34 am
by mvanwink5
And the reason Polywell is not fully funded from the Navy? Right, bureaucrats and politicians (Repubs and Democs).
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:48 am
by Skipjack
Forbes magazine recently started bitching about the peanuts of NIAC2 funding MSNW got for their fusion driven rocket. The piece was a total slander and full of wrongs. The author even went to pull out the NIF as a means to say "see fusion is a waste of money".
Because that bit of fusion and plasma research is going to break the bank compared to trillions that went (and are still going) into a destroyer and a fighter jet that turned out to be complete junk.
Re: Republicans Hate Fusion
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:51 am
by Schneibster
mvanwink5 wrote:That was ultimately Bussard's mistake. To avoid dealing with people he did not trust, he went with folks he thought he could trust, people who answer to bureaucrats and politicians. It has to be the the biggest and cruelest joke on the world, the idea of getting help from the government!
Oh, and the reason no private firm is investing is that the patent has been turned down, so no protection on the investment. If you don't buy this reason, ask yourself why is General Fusion and Tri Alpha getting the funding from venture capital and not Polywell? And remember Bussard turned down the private investments before turning to the Navy
Why was the patent turned down?