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We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:28 pm
by Maui
Basically, the PAC would work to defeat the most extreme candidates on either side (equal numbers from each party) that have a realistic chance of being defeated (either in primaries or the general election).
I would sure as hell give to such a PAC. I gotta think these days such a PAC could easily garner enough support to noticeably offset the unhealthily polarization of the PACs we have now.
Who do we go to to get this started?
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:29 pm
by Schneibster
Maui wrote:Basically, the PAC would work to defeat the most extreme candidates on either side (equal numbers from each party) that have a realistic chance of being defeated (either in primaries or the general election).
I would sure as hell give to such a PAC. I gotta think these days such a PAC could easily garner enough support to noticeably offset the unhealthily polarization of the PACs we have now.
Who do we go to to get this started?
You're assuming, without evidence, that both sides are equally wrong. Your plan is therefore inherently unfair to the side that is closer to right. This is especially true when one side is deliberately cheating.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:36 pm
by Maui
No, I'm concluding, with ample evidence, that damage from either side refusing to compromise is (or soon will be) much more damaging that either party's fully-implemented policies.
Anyway, there can be no one universal "right" for 300 million very different people. It's so sad that our PACs have managed to make so many forget about this.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:40 pm
by Schneibster
Maui wrote:No, I'm concluding, with ample evidence, that damage from either side refusing to compromise is (or soon will be) much more damaging that either party's fully-implemented policies.
Anyway, there can be no one universal "right" for 300 million very different people. It's so sad that our PACs have managed to make so many forget about this.
You're not the only one I've heard be against the shutdown, and who's blaming both sides equally.
Unfortunately, one side is all it takes to make a shutdown.
Obama's put up with this racist crap for six years. It's time to make a stand. The Senate will pass any reasonable legislation and he will sign it. No more games trying to squirm out of Obamacare. Implement it and let the public judge. The only reason for delaying is because they're afraid it will work and make Obama look good.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:42 pm
by Maui
Schneibster wrote:Unfortunately, one side is all it takes to make a shutdown.
Nope, takes two sides.
P.S. I am a leftist and did vote for Obama. But the biggest problem with our country is no longer health insurance, or debt or taxes... it's the inability to compromise. You can't solve all the other issues until we solve that one.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:43 pm
by ladajo
Look at that, new thread, two posts, and the clown has to throw out the "racist" card. Again.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:53 pm
by Schneibster
Maui wrote:Schneibster wrote:Unfortunately, one side is all it takes to make a shutdown.
Nope, takes two sides.
P.S. I am a leftist and did vote for Obama. But the biggest problem with our country is no longer health insurance, or debt or taxes... it's the inability to compromise. You can't solve all the other issues until we solve that one.
You're not even the only leftist I've talked to recently (last few days) who believes as you do. My doctor actually.
There is a strong propaganda ploy which I am warning you you should be suspicious of. You must, of course, make up your own mind.
Voting is supposed to break the tie. One party is attempting to tie everything instead of ever admitting they lost. That's the source of the problem. Or anyway that's my opinion. It's time and past time Obama stood up to these teaterrorists. And it's time and past time the public backed him and started kicking these individuals out and getting some sane people in there. There are plenty of sane Republicans, and I speak as a lifelong Democrat, never voted anything but a Democrat in my life. They don't have to always go with these crazies.
They're not even really crazy; they're just gaming the system by appearing crazy. Their intent is incredibly subversive. They mean to destroy democracy in the US.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:17 pm
by ladajo
You should be proud of Carter and Obama.
All pussies should stick together after all.
Please go away.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:18 pm
by Schneibster
ladajo wrote:Please go away.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:23 pm
by Schneibster
Maui wrote:Schneibster wrote:Unfortunately, one side is all it takes to make a shutdown.
Nope, takes two sides.
If a bully tells you to give him your lunch money what are the two sides it takes? Do you think giving him your lunch money is a solution?
The proper way to deal with a bully is well known, and after you're done they run whining to the Principal's office. And when you're done taking your whuppin' for punching the bully in the nose, you tell the Principal you won't hit anyone else in the nose unless they try to bully you.
Maui wrote:P.S. I am a leftist and did vote for Obama. But the biggest problem with our country is no longer health insurance, or debt or taxes... it's the inability to compromise. You can't solve all the other issues until we solve that one.
There's no place to compromise with evil. These people want to take away childrens' schooling. They'll plunge the US into the Dark Ages just when everyone else is entering the Information Age.
These are fairly persuasive arguments for me. I see consideration behind your words and await more of them with pleasure.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:24 pm
by Diogenes
Maui wrote:Basically, the PAC would work to defeat the most extreme candidates on either side (equal numbers from each party) that have a realistic chance of being defeated (either in primaries or the general election).
I would sure as hell give to such a PAC. I gotta think these days such a PAC could easily garner enough support to noticeably offset the unhealthily polarization of the PACs we have now.
Who do we go to to get this started?
You don't. Lukewarm doesn't energize anyone.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:25 pm
by Schneibster
Diogenes wrote:Maui wrote:Basically, the PAC would work to defeat the most extreme candidates on either side (equal numbers from each party) that have a realistic chance of being defeated (either in primaries or the general election).
I would sure as hell give to such a PAC. I gotta think these days such a PAC could easily garner enough support to noticeably offset the unhealthily polarization of the PACs we have now.
Who do we go to to get this started?
You don't. Lukewarm doesn't energize anyone.
Remember, you're the ones who forced Obama to this. It took six years, too. And you denying two elections.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:33 pm
by ladajo
Schneibster wrote:ladajo wrote:Please go away.
I see you are still struggling with finding out that you are a liar. Just let it all out.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:37 pm
by Diogenes
Schneibster wrote:You're assuming, without evidence, that both sides are equally wrong. Your plan is therefore inherently unfair to the side that is closer to right. This is especially true when one side is deliberately cheating.
Oddly enough, the kook has a point, but not in the way he thinks.
One side cheats every year by using a media monopoly to present their arguments in the most favorable light, while denigrating and casting aspersions on both the arguments and the people with whom they disagree. They also gain advantage by REFUSING to report news damaging to their political allies. ( Fast and Furious, Inspector general scandal, Benghazi, Green Energy money wasting boondoggles, Obama's Hugely expensive Vacations and so on.)
They get the equivalent of Free advertising which is worth probably a billion dollars to match in paid advertising. Beyond that, they use the power of government to attack their political enemies (IRS Scandal) and insist on loose voter registration requirements so as to promote election fraud.
Yeah, one side cheats. A lot.
Re: We need an anti-extremist PAC
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:41 pm
by Schneibster
Diogenes wrote:One side cheats every year by using a media monopoly to present their arguments in the most favorable light,
Your inability to distinguish between the well-known liberal bias of reality and some sort of evil Nazi plot by "the media" is strongly indicative of psychotic paranoid ideation.