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They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:58 am
by MSimon
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:53 pm
by TDPerk
I suppose your tunnel vision has prevented you from observing the maleficent influence of the government in the matter of the far more fundamentally important system governing another naturally occurring substance, lipids?
You should turn you attention to that, it does far more actually damage, and is equally unconstitutional.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:16 pm
by MSimon
TDPerk wrote:I suppose your tunnel vision has prevented you from observing the maleficent influence of the government in the matter of the far more fundamentally important system governing another naturally occurring substance, lipids?
You should turn you attention to that, it does far more actually damage, and is equally unconstitutional.
I follow what I have studied. Got a link to get me started on lipids?
Although I must say interfering with medicine that helps regulate every system in the body is a crime against humanity.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:01 am
by Stubby
Dr Sanjay Gupta does a remarkable 180 on medical marijuana, goes as far as apologizing for helping to mislead americans on the subject.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/0 ... -marijuana
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:10 pm
by rj40
Yeah, that Gupta thing. How about that? Surprisingly forceful. Anyone can say almost anything, but who should you believe? He could have been surgeon general too. Well, I think he was under consideration. I wonder, full legalization by...what...2020? Sort of like beer? I think I will still avoid the stuff myself.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:25 pm
by paperburn1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid
there you go. work it from there.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:29 pm
by ladajo
Gupta is not giving a blanket approval.
He even admits there are medical fakers, as well as dependancy issues.
He is especially concerned about younger users.
BUt I am sure his comments will be misrepresented by the dopers.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:16 pm
by Betruger
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:37 pm
by MSimon
rj40 wrote:Yeah, that Gupta thing. How about that? Surprisingly forceful. Anyone can say almost anything, but who should you believe? He could have been surgeon general too. Well, I think he was under consideration. I wonder, full legalization by...what...2020? Sort of like beer? I think I will still avoid the stuff myself.
Don't believe anything. Study the matter and come to your own conclusion. Endocannabinoids.
BTW you can't avoid it. The body makes vast quantities on its own. But like any other bodily system when there are imbalances intervention is called for.
Now do you want an agonist or an antagonist? And which cannabinoid should predominate? It depends on what you are treating.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:49 pm
by MSimon
ladajo wrote:Gupta is not giving a blanket approval.
He even admits there are medical fakers, as well as dependancy issues.
He is especially concerned about younger users.
BUt I am sure his comments will be misrepresented by the dopers.
The chief misrepresentatives on the subject are prohibitionists.
There are more endocannabinoid receptors in the body than any other receptor type. The endocannabinoid system is a major regulator in the body implicated in almost all diseases including cancer.
http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/02/w ... ic-deaths/
Seems like a good reason right there to legalize. Lower traffic accidents caused by alkys who have switched. Traffic accidents kill a LOT of innocents.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:56 pm
by MSimon
ladajo wrote:Gupta is not giving a blanket approval.
The only known dependency issue is this:
People in chronic pain chronically take pain relievers.
Gupta has taken a good first step. He has a LOT more study to do.
In another 10 years his attitudes will appear quaint. Despite his being on the cutting edge today.
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:59 pm
by MSimon
A recent study published in the Journal of American Medicine has some conclusions that might make marijuana advocates pretty excited. According to the study, the potent plant usually known for causing the munchies might actually help people be thinner. Researchers looked at the effect of the drug on metabolic processes and discovered a correlation between smaller waist circumference and marijuana use.
The results showed that, in addition to being thinner, marijuana users appeared to be more healthy overall than those who have never used marijuana.
The study looked at more than 4,600 people, 12 percent of whom said they were current marijuana users and 42 percent of whom said they had used in the past. Previous research had shown that marijuana users had a lower prevalence for diabetes and obesity, but this was the first study where scientists tried to determine if there was a link between insulin and glucose levels and marijuana usage, Yahoo Shine reported.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/ ... -non-users
Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:57 am
by rj40
I don't have time to study everything, so I find myself relying on what I see as reasonable. And scientific consensus. And then making voting level decisions. I have poked around a bit on the marijuana issue and found some pretty scary stuff and some good stuff. I am leaning towards not being too worried about it. I could be wrong, but my best estimate, right now, is to vote yeah on some sort of legalization.
Also, I understand very little about inflation theory and the Big Bang, but, the consensus (not 100%!!!) seems to be that it really happened. So I will give my provisional support to that too. And vote accordingly. The Big Bang and inflation should be taught in every school.

Re: They Regulate Everything In The Body
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:13 am
by MSimon
rj40,
The thing is - we are incarcerating people based on pseudo science. You know the drill. Burn the witches. Or in this case burn the dopers. They have nasty habits. At the very least. Speaking of nasty habits:
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/10/everyth ... _is_wrong/
At the heart of “High Price” is the argument that current U.S. drug policies are not only morally wrong, but scientifically wrong as well, a game of politics and fear-mongering in which our government sanctions the widespread prescription of certain drugs, while locking more than 1.5 million people behind bars each year for the use of others. If you’ve ever wondered why our nation pops OxyContin like candy, while its twin sister, heroin, evokes fears of driveling, strung-out junkies, High Price has an answer – just perhaps not the one you were expecting. I caught up with Hart to talk about the book, his career and how he thinks American drug policy needs to change.
You grew up in an environment where many of your peers and family led lives plagued by drugs, prison and violent death, yet you became a neuroscientist and the first tenured black professor of science at Columbia University. In the book you cite hard work and influential mentors as factors in your success, but reserve a large portion of credit to the absence of the criminal justice system in your life, despite the fact that you did use and sell drugs as a youth. What role does the criminal justice system play in perpetuating cycles of poverty, violence and drug use?