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NSFM - means Not Safe From Me - I will touch on my usual.

http://jpfo.org/alerts2013/alert20130409.htm

"John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.

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Too funny. If you want to keep your firearms and have an anxiety problem you are better off going to the gypsy drug store. There is danger there but they don't keep records.

A link to avoid if you object to my usual - it is about treating anxiety with forbidden medicine

They aim to make outlaws of us all. One way or another.

More from the JPFO link:

This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.

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Well there were some among us who had it in for a certain crowd and were willing to shred the 4th and 5th to get at that certain bunch of miscreants. Well you got at them all right. And now that you have no protection they are coming for you.

"First they came for...." Still works the way it always did. I can't tell you how many times I was told in effect "they deserve it" and "it can't happen here"

I'm sorry to say that I will have the last laugh. Only I'm not laughing.

Lots of commentary here: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-yor ... z2Q1RyNQrq

If they wanted to revoke the gun license on the basis of potential threat, given the low incidence of mass murders in a population overall, they should look for people who have, depression and anxiety and suicidal tendencies and bad reaction to SSRI's and firearms access and play violent video games and have issued threats and post pictures on web sites brandishing firearms claiming they're planning mayhem. Not just one factor, but all the multiple factors, because 99.99% with only one or two risk factors won't commit harm. Not to say the authorities don't have a duty to protect the public, but the threshold has to be set high given the minimum risk involved.

It turns out that anxiety disorders are the most common mental health problem in the United States. They are worth $46 billion a year to the pharmaceutical industry. You don't suppose this fact has any thing to do with the pharmaceutical industries being in the forefront of the Drug Free America campaign do you? Of course not. They are just trying to keep you from being addicted to natural products at the cost of 1/10th of a cent per dose when they are more than willing to sell you an FDA and doctor approved, pharmacy sold product that will do the job for a dollar a dose. They have only your best interests at heart. Just ask their accountants.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/200 ... ation.html

Note the date: September 2004 the $$$s are probably higher now.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... 7820120713

In 1994, a study asking a random sample of thousands of Americans about their mental health reported that 15 percent had ever suffered from anxiety disorders. A 2009 study of people interviewed about their anxiety repeatedly for years raised that estimate to 49.5 percent - which would be 117 million U.S. adults.

Some psychiatrists say the increase in the prevalence of anxiety from about 4 percent to 50 percent is the result of psychiatrists and others "getting better at diagnosing anxiety," as Dr. Carolyn Robinowitz, a past president of the APA who is in private practice in Washington, D.C., put it. "People who criticize that are showing their bias," she said. "When we get better at diagnosing hypertension, we don't say that's terrible."

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It's Not the Job Market - The three real reasons why Americans are more anxious than ever before.

I also discussed similar happenings in California.

And note the kind of attention I got then:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4374

CA's been doing it for five years now, very quietly. Thankfully the fine print gives people a way out, simply don't let them on your property, or rather don't give them probable cause. This works against their gun grab teams though swatters will still bust down your door so you gotta make sure the guns are locked in a place they can't find them through searching. I'm honestly thinking of sub-floor enclosures.

At this point in time anyone who doesn't have a car camera and camera's all over their home is crazy. The only way to fight the police establishment is mass publication of online videos showing them behaving this way. The mainstream media can only suppress this for so long, once it starts being circulated it gets harder and harder to pretend it isn't happening.

Shots fired.... (Anonymous phone call) = probable cause?

Stubby wrote:Shots fired.... (Anonymous phone call) = probable cause?

no such thing as an anonymous phone call anymore. but you right they can say anything. "I heard a scream for help I thought it came form inside....."

burner phones are still anonymous

paperburn1,

The funny thing is that I was warning gunners of this problem - the shredding of the 4th and 5th for years. I was looking out for your rights. But the hatred of "them" overcame your judgment. The lines seemed so bright. "They" do this. "We" do not . So we will be safe.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/201 ... eedom.html

and better:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/200 ... dment.html
Opening line: This article was originally published in a number of places in May of 2001. It is still relevant so I'm republishing it here.

Too funny, eh?

Another line from deeper in the text: The Drug War exception to the Fourth Amendment couldn't be larger.

I have a list of what is/was considered probable cause. And no upright citizen objected because - "drugs are bad".

And what was I saying - "unlimited government is worse". Can you hear me now?

palladin9479 wrote:CA's been doing it for five years now, very quietly. Thankfully the fine print gives people a way out, simply don't let them on your property, or rather don't give them probable cause. This works against their gun grab teams though swatters will still bust down your door so you gotta make sure the guns are locked in a place they can't find them through searching. I'm honestly thinking of sub-floor enclosures.

At this point in time anyone who doesn't have a car camera and camera's all over their home is crazy. The only way to fight the police establishment is mass publication of online videos showing them behaving this way. The mainstream media can only suppress this for so long, once it starts being circulated it gets harder and harder to pretend it isn't happening.

What would be a good camera to have installed in your car? or house? I know high end cell phones like the I-Phone or the Droid Razzr Maxx HD have good built in cameras, but you would have to remember to activate it.

williatw wrote:

palladin9479 wrote:CA's been doing it for five years now, very quietly. Thankfully the fine print gives people a way out, simply don't let them on your property, or rather don't give them probable cause. This works against their gun grab teams though swatters will still bust down your door so you gotta make sure the guns are locked in a place they can't find them through searching. I'm honestly thinking of sub-floor enclosures.

At this point in time anyone who doesn't have a car camera and camera's all over their home is crazy. The only way to fight the police establishment is mass publication of online videos showing them behaving this way. The mainstream media can only suppress this for so long, once it starts being circulated it gets harder and harder to pretend it isn't happening.

What would be a good camera to have installed in your car? or house? I know high end cell phones like the I-Phone or the Droid Razzr Maxx HD have good built in cameras, but you would have to remember to activate it.

For the car their called "Dash Cams", they constantly record everything and can hold anywhere from a few hours to a days worth of data. The idea isn't to turn it "on" but rather that it keeps recording constantly and overwrites old data. After something happens you turn it "off" or copy it's data out to another device as evidence. They've become very useful to have in court cases where the police officer says one thing but your camera shows another.

For homes it's the same though you'll need to either build your own system or hire someone to do it for you. The hiring can get rather pricy as you'll be buying all new hardware. Most cameras now support IP connectivity and remote data transmission similar to how CCTV works. You setup a home recording server with very large HDD's, all your cameras are constantly sending their data to the server which is storing it. These can store weeks of data at a time. Would make for some very strong evidence in both courts and on youtube. Do not ever discount how powerful a youtube video can be.

palladin9479 wrote:

williatw wrote:

palladin9479 wrote:CA's been doing it for five years now, very quietly. Thankfully the fine print gives people a way out, simply don't let them on your property, or rather don't give them probable cause. This works against their gun grab teams though swatters will still bust down your door so you gotta make sure the guns are locked in a place they can't find them through searching. I'm honestly thinking of sub-floor enclosures.

At this point in time anyone who doesn't have a car camera and camera's all over their home is crazy. The only way to fight the police establishment is mass publication of online videos showing them behaving this way. The mainstream media can only suppress this for so long, once it starts being circulated it gets harder and harder to pretend it isn't happening.

What would be a good camera to have installed in your car? or house? I know high end cell phones like the I-Phone or the Droid Razzr Maxx HD have good built in cameras, but you would have to remember to activate it.

For the car their called "Dash Cams", they constantly record everything and can hold anywhere from a few hours to a days worth of data. The idea isn't to turn it "on" but rather that it keeps recording constantly and overwrites old data. After something happens you turn it "off" or copy it's data out to another device as evidence. They've become very useful to have in court cases where the police officer says one thing but your camera shows another.

For homes it's the same though you'll need to either build your own system or hire someone to do it for you. The hiring can get rather pricy as you'll be buying all new hardware. Most cameras now support IP connectivity and remote data transmission similar to how CCTV works. You setup a home recording server with very large HDD's, all your cameras are constantly sending their data to the server which is storing it. These can store weeks of data at a time. Would make for some very strong evidence in both courts and on youtube. Do not ever discount how powerful a youtube video can be.

I wonder if a smart phone (a good one) could be used for this as well? If there is an apt on your I-phone/Droid/Galaxy that automatically records audio and video and downloads it wirelessly to your server. You would have your phone with you at all times, so if would matter if you were in your house, car, or anywhere. A dash camera could be stolen from your car, that's why I don't even mount my Tom-Tom GPS, keep in a compartment, never display/mount it even when using it. I heard even having visible mounting clips in your car will cause people to break in. Though a smart phone with you obviously wouldn't record someone breaking into your home when your not there, of course.

Simon sa much as I would like to comment on your links , My system always comes back as a malformed link attempting a DEP attack. blogspot has some nasties on it
Category: Intrusion Prevention
Date & Time,Risk,Activity,Status,Recommended Action,IPS Alert Name,Default Action,Action Taken,Attacking Computer,Attacker URL,Destination Address,Source Address,Traffic Description
2013-04-12 1:46:14,High,An intrusion attempt by prrokach.cu.cc was blocked.,Blocked,No Action Required,Web Attack: Malicious Website Accessed 2,No Action Required,No Action Required,"prrokach.cu.cc (37.221.172.8, 80)",prrokach.cu.cc/solutions/lad.php,"CUBIC-SUPERVISO (192.168.1.102, 2983)",37.221.172.8 (37.221.172.,"TCP, www-http"
I am an IA guy so I am not going to let you blog site BOT me.

paperburn1 wrote:Simon sa much as I would like to comment on your links , My system always comes back as a malformed link attempting a DEP attack. blogspot has some nasties on it
Category: Intrusion Prevention
Date & Time,Risk,Activity,Status,Recommended Action,IPS Alert Name,Default Action,Action Taken,Attacking Computer,Attacker URL,Destination Address,Source Address,Traffic Description
2013-04-12 1:46:14,High,An intrusion attempt by prrokach.cu.cc was blocked.,Blocked,No Action Required,Web Attack: Malicious Website Accessed 2,No Action Required,No Action Required,"prrokach.cu.cc (37.221.172.8, 80)",prrokach.cu.cc/solutions/lad.php,"CUBIC-SUPERVISO (192.168.1.102, 2983)",37.221.172.8 (37.221.172.8),"TCP, www-http"
I am an IA guy :wink: so I am not going to let you blog site BOT me.

Well that is amusing. It never attacks me. And none of my warning devices rings when I go to my sites. I use Norton and Avast for immediate warnings and Spybot and Malware Bytes for backup checks. I do get warnings from some blogspot places.

IA - well that IS amusing. FWIW I have a police officer living next door. He claims former but I'm not so sure. We are not close but we are very friendly re: neighbor stuff. He is well aware of my interests. I get the feeling he has come to similar conclusions.

And funny - I ran into an NSA guy the other day. He volunteered the information after I gave him my name. Said he read the series on the Drug War that ran under my byline in the local weekly. That would have been 2000 to 2002 roughly. Rock River Times if you want to look it up. The NSA guy came to a similar conclusion re: our liberties.

But try this: http://classicalvalues.com/2011/04/searches_are_in/

Here is a different link to the Fourth Amendment Article:
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n953/a04.html?1373

well that is a direct capture from clicking on your link with norton 360
SO untill my anti virus software says its safe I can not comment on your posts.
But of course I make my living doing this stuff so maybe I am better set up to prevent these attacks than most. Information assurance is amusing? Thanks for the direct links.
On a side note I just read where you guys just elected a dead guy to be road commissioner. Well not you but Stephenson County I am guessing.