The green movement is out of control

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choff
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The green movement is out of control

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http://canadianawareness.org/2012/12/br ... o-fascism/

Among other mentions, 40 million americans displaced since 1980 by green initiatives, and potentially apocalyptic fires because humans aren't even allowed in to practice sound forest management.
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the greens are lunatics

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Does "green" refer to the mold on their brains! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding. Not ALL greens are crazy. Some just give the rest a bad name among the thinking.

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Re: The green movement is out of control

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choff wrote: http://canadianawareness.org/2012/12/br ... o-fascism/

Among other mentions, 40 million americans displaced since 1980 by green initiatives, and potentially apocalyptic fires because humans aren't even allowed in to practice sound forest management.

Yeah, they're all Watermelons. Green on the outside, Red on the inside.
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Post by DeltaV »

A conspiracy theory I once heard stated that, after its defeat, the Nazi Party reinvented itself by splitting into two parts, the Greens (the 'brain' part) and the Skinheads (the 'brawn' part).

If the Greens' policies start to be enforced by Skinheads we'll know this theory has some merit.

Socialism is socialism, 'national' or 'international'.

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Post by Skipjack »

Yeah, they're all Watermelons. Green on the outside, Red on the inside.
Indeed. We call them that here as well.
A conspiracy theory I once heard stated that, after its defeat, the Nazi Party reinvented itself by splitting into two parts, the Greens (the 'brain' part) and the Skinheads (the 'brawn' part).
If the Greens' policies start to be enforced by Skinheads we'll know this theory has some merit.
Socialism is socialism, 'national' or 'international'.
Which is of course utter nonsense. The greens are populated by hippies and commies. The nationalists here in Austria are actually more on the libertarian side economically...
I heard that the greenparty was brought into light by Suslov.
The green movement did not start until the mid 70ies. The skinheads came to light in the 60ies (first as a left wing movement in GB, later as a right wing neo nazi movement in the rest of Europe).
Anyway by that time the original nazis were already burried in history and not in the position to start any movement whatsoever.

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Post by DeltaV »

Skipjack wrote:Which is of course utter nonsense. The greens are populated by hippies and commies.
You're ignoring wealthy globalists pushing the green agenda and the long-known connections between powerful bankers/industrialists and the spread of socialism.

All just control schemes to help the rich get richer while suppressing more freedoms and melting more borders. You buy the earth-loving hippie cover story, like most continentals. Residual kriegschuld?

Agenda 21: The Death Knell of Liberty
So what is the “purpose?” What’s really behind all the global warming hoopla?

Power. It’s the same old Marxist/Communist/Fascist collectivist schtick, dressed up in new clothes.

Global warming is all about a power grab by a wealthy elite and their collectivist sycophants—using the U.N. as a cover and tool.

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You're ignoring wealthy globalists pushing the green agenda and the long-known connections between powerful bankers/industrialists and the spread of socialism.
That is a different green agenda from the green agenda. Trust me, I know the green people here in my country, where the green party is so strong, it is in a coalition in some states. They are very close to the communist party here. The nationalist freedom party in my country would have nothing to do with them (they are considered "the enemy") and is economically more libertarian than the other parties. They are still conservative in regards to drugs, prostitution and gambling. The greens and communists are more open towards liberalisation of those (as are the socialists).

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Post by Diogenes »

DeltaV wrote:
Skipjack wrote:Which is of course utter nonsense. The greens are populated by hippies and commies.
You're ignoring wealthy globalists pushing the green agenda and the long-known connections between powerful bankers/industrialists and the spread of socialism.

All just control schemes to help the rich get richer while suppressing more freedoms and melting more borders. You buy the earth-loving hippie cover story, like most continentals. Residual kriegschuld?

Agenda 21: The Death Knell of Liberty
So what is the “purpose?” What’s really behind all the global warming hoopla?

Power. It’s the same old Marxist/Communist/Fascist collectivist schtick, dressed up in new clothes.

Global warming is all about a power grab by a wealthy elite and their collectivist sycophants—using the U.N. as a cover and tool.

All things Socialist are just attempts to reinstate a Monarchy\Aristocracy form of government with the Well-connected believing themselves to be the New Aristocracy, to which the rules will not apply in the new Socialist Utopia.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
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All things Socialist are just attempts to reinstate a Monarchy\Aristocracy form of government with the Well-connected believing themselves to be the New Aristocracy, to which the rules will not apply in the new Socialist Utopia
Does not apply to the socialists that I know.

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Skipjack wrote: The nationalist freedom party in my country would have nothing to do with them (they are considered "the enemy") and is economically more libertarian than the other parties. They are still conservative in regards to drugs, prostitution and gambling. The greens and communists are more open towards liberalisation of those (as are the socialists).
The idea is to find factions with resents (preferably legitimate) and enlist them in the cause.

It is why so many blacks turned to communism in the Jim Crow era. Jim Crow/racism was declared a capitalist disease. The same happened re: drugs. Drug prohibition is a capitalist disease (come to think of it they may have something there). And gays.

The thing is: none of these grievances have anything to do with capitalism. They are products of stupid humans.
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Post by Skipjack »

Well, I even know socialist politicians and they do believe the crap they are saying (which is the sad part).

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Skipjack wrote:
All things Socialist are just attempts to reinstate a Monarchy\Aristocracy form of government with the Well-connected believing themselves to be the New Aristocracy, to which the rules will not apply in the new Socialist Utopia
Does not apply to the socialists that I know.

Really? So you know some of them who want to be just plain ole tovariches and not Party Apparatchiks? There is a third category. "Useful Idiots."
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Skipjack wrote:Well, I even know socialist politicians and they do believe the crap they are saying (which is the sad part).

The Fact that they have become politicians ought to tell you all that you need to know about where they see themselves "come the revolution."
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Post by Skipjack »

Sigh, it is impossible to convince people that religiously believe the shit they are saying. That is true for the socialist politicians that I personally know (and of course there are some that do it for the money and the power, but not all of them) and the people here.
The result is that I keep getting into arguments with both sides. It is tiring and really the older I get, the less I feel like spending my time with this.
Why people just cant for once (even when it is personal experience and only includes a subset of a group) take my word for something is beyond my understanding.
Not everyone is up to something sinister all the time, people!

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