David Koch

[MSimon]

[Stubby]

Don't know that you needed to have 3 different posts. I sincerely hope you picked the 3 most prominent of many more, and am supremely thankful that you didn't post more independent thread for each one.

[MSimon]

Don't know that you needed to have 3 different posts. I sincerely hope you picked the 3 most prominent of many more, and am supremely thankful that you didn't post more independent thread for each one.

Well you know me. Always looking for amusement from D. I didn't want him to miss it. And yes. There were many more.

I'm going to vote shortly.

[Stubby]

You want a rise from d then tell him there is no proof, othen than musty misstranslated and edited 2000 year old collection of short stories, of the existance of a higher piwer

[MSimon]

You want a rise from d then tell him there is no proof, othen than musty misstranslated and edited 2000 year old collection of short stories, of the existance of a higher piwer

Well yes. No proof other than experience. Unfortunately for you I don't believe in a higher power. I have experienced it. Fortunately for you (as I understand what D has said) he believes without experience. Fortunately for you the power tells me different things than what D believes.

But I rarely discuss such issues.

[GIThruster]

Pretty sure D claims to be an atheist. It is the utility of religion that he supports.

[Diogenes]

You want a rise from d then tell him there is no proof, othen than musty misstranslated and edited 2000 year old collection of short stories, of the existance of a higher piwer

You are quite amusing. You are seriously misguided about who you think I am am. Your stereotype will not fit me.

[Diogenes]

Pretty sure D claims to be an atheist. It is the utility of religion that he supports.

Pro-theistic agnostic. How can anyone forget such a term?


I think Mormonism is complete nonsense, but as for functional utility, I'm beginning to think it is the superior of available choices.

[Stubby]

maybe he is but when someone is as rabidly anti-gay his posts show him to be, is usually a religious based belief

[Diogenes]

Don't know that you needed to have 3 different posts. I sincerely hope you picked the 3 most prominent of many more, and am supremely thankful that you didn't post more independent thread for each one.

Well you know me. Always looking for amusement from D. I didn't want him to miss it. And yes. There were many more.

I'm going to vote shortly.

What you are doing is convincing me that your Engineering principles are left at the door when you are spouting your religion.

Since when do Engineers care what is someone's subjective opinion? Engineers deal with hard facts, not speculation. Show me a million people who think something is thus, and it will still not make it thus.

[Diogenes]

maybe he is but when someone is as rabidly anti-gay his posts show him to be, is usually a religious based belief

Or someone who is better informed about the long experience of Human History with "Gay."

It is a subject I have studied quite a lot, and it is my opinion that anyone who has studied it objectively to any extent will conclude that it is a dreadful disease that brings misery and death wherever it emerges.

Why should anybody be pro-misery and pro-death?

[TDPerk]

anyone who has studied it objectively to any extent will conclude that it is a dreadful disease that brings misery and death wherever it emerges.

Why should anybody be pro-misery and pro-death?

I think any objective study of it shows that he misery death is inflicted on people who have gay regardless of the merits in doing it, without it being a part of the issue itself.

[Diogenes]

anyone who has studied it objectively to any extent will conclude that it is a dreadful disease that brings misery and death wherever it emerges.

Why should anybody be pro-misery and pro-death?

I think any objective study of it shows that he misery death is inflicted on people who have gay regardless of the merits in doing it, without it being a part of the issue itself.

It's a topic i'm perfectly willing to discuss. Most people are unaware that the largest repository of sexually transmitted diseases exists within the gay community.

Prior to the development of anti-biotics, this was a virtual guaranteed death sentence for the practitioners. No doubt, some of the historical stigma against it was the result of the observed behavior coupled with the subsequent sickness which developed and was noted by others.

[Stubby]

Heterosexuals Organised for Moral Environment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sexual Abuse: A Major Cause Of Homosexuality?

On The Unhealthy Homosexual Lifestyle

Supportive Message To Parents Of Homosexual Children

Some Quotes Regarding The AIDS Epidemic

Do Homosexuals Have A Hidden Agenda?

Why Homosexuals Tend To Be Sexually Exploitative

Is Homosexuality A Disorder?

Liberalism's Totalitarian Side

On The Liberal Bias Of The Dominant Media

The Dominant Media Admit They Have Little Credibility

Are Public Schools A Propaganda Arm Of Liberals?

Should We Have "Hate Crime" Legislation?

Should "Sexual Orientation" Be Included In Anti-Discrimination Measures?

Are Sodomy Laws Unconstitutional If They Only Apply To Homosexuals and Not Heterosexuals?

Strange But Logical Repercussions Of Societal Approval Of Homosexual Activity

The Homosexual Movement's Connection To Hollywood

Freemasonry's Connection To The Homosexual Movement

On Liberal Hate Groups

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST:
Groups That Help Homosexuals Become Heterosexual


You are so busted! All the other 'information' on that site is HILARIOUS.

[Diogenes]

Heterosexuals Organised for Moral Environment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sexual Abuse: A Major Cause Of Homosexuality?

On The Unhealthy Homosexual Lifestyle

Supportive Message To Parents Of Homosexual Children

Some Quotes Regarding The AIDS Epidemic

Do Homosexuals Have A Hidden Agenda?

Why Homosexuals Tend To Be Sexually Exploitative

Is Homosexuality A Disorder?

Liberalism's Totalitarian Side

On The Liberal Bias Of The Dominant Media

The Dominant Media Admit They Have Little Credibility

Are Public Schools A Propaganda Arm Of Liberals?

Should We Have "Hate Crime" Legislation?

Should "Sexual Orientation" Be Included In Anti-Discrimination Measures?

Are Sodomy Laws Unconstitutional If They Only Apply To Homosexuals and Not Heterosexuals?

Strange But Logical Repercussions Of Societal Approval Of Homosexual Activity

The Homosexual Movement's Connection To Hollywood

Freemasonry's Connection To The Homosexual Movement

On Liberal Hate Groups

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST:
Groups That Help Homosexuals Become Heterosexual


You are so busted! All the other 'information' on that site is HILARIOUS.

You were expecting maybe to find unpleasant information about Homosexuality on the Lesbian-Gay-Trans-Gender web sites?

I wasn't really concerned with who was bringing out the data. The References cited are what gives the Data it's validity.

1. Council on Scientific Affairs, "Health care needs of gay men and lesbians in the United States," JAMA, May 1, 1996, p. 1355. Because the homosexual anal cancer rate is so much higher than the heterosexual anal cancer rate, and because the difference is associated with the frequency of anal sex, we find many homosexuals and their supporters try to flat-out deny the inconvenient truth. Since this is a significant fact which reflects negatively on the physiologically unnatural homosexual lifestyle, we are going to provide ample documentation to prove our point. The following medical journal articles, in no particular order, also refer to the abnormally high homosexual anal cancer rate (we don't mean to imply these are the only ones that do---we're sure there are other such articles since that rate is very well-documented): M. Frisch, "On the etiology of anal squamous carcinoma," Dan Med Bull, Aug. 2002, 49(3), pp. 194-209; M. Frisch and others, "Cancer in a population-based cohort of men and women in registered homosexual partnerships," Am J Epidemiol, June 1, 2003, 157(11), pp. 966-72; D. Knight, "Health care screening for men who have sex with men," Am Fam Physician, May 1, 2004, 69(9), pp. 2149-56; S. Goldstone, "Anal dysplasia in men who have sex with men," AIDS Read, May-June 1999, 9(3), pp. 204-8 and 220; Reinhard Hopfl and others, "High prevalence of high risk human papillomavirus-capsid antibodies in human immunodeficiency virus-seropositive men: a serological study," BMC Infect Dis, April 30, 2003, 3(1), p. 6; R.J. Biggar and M. Melbye, "Marital status in relation to Kaposi's sarcoma, non-Hodgkins lymphoma, and anal cancer in the pre-AIDS era," J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol, Feb. 1, 1996, 11(2), pp. 178-82; P.V. Chin-Hong and others, "Age-related prevalence of anal cancer precursors in homosexual men: the EXPLORE study," J Natl Cancer Inst, June 15, 2005, 97(12), pp. 896-905; R. Dunleavey, "The role of viruses and sexual transmission in anal cancer," Nurs Times, March 1-7, 2005, 101(9), pp. 38-41; P.V. Chin-Hong and others, "Age-Specific prevalence of anal human papillomavirus infection in HIV-negative sexually active men who have sex with men: the EXPLORE study," J Infect Dis, Dec. 15, 2004, 190(12), pp. 2070-6; J.R. Daling and others, "Human papillomavirus, smoking, and sexual practices in the etiology of anal cancer," Cancer, July 15, 2004, 101(2), pp. 270-80; and A. Kreuter and others, "Screening and therapy of anal intraepithelial neoplasia (AIN) and anal carcinoma in patients with HIV-infection," Dtsch Med Wochenschr, Sept. 19, 2003, 128(38), pp. 1957-62.

2. M. Frisch and others, "Sexually transmitted infection as a cause of anal cancer," N Engl J Med, Nov. 6, 1997, p. 1350.

3. S.D. Wexner, "Sexually transmitted diseases of the colon, rectum, and anus. The challenge of the nineties," Dis Colon Rectum (EAB), Dec. 1990, from the abstract, p. 1048. For further reading: J.F. Beltrami and others, "Trends in infectious diseases and the male to female ratio: possible clues to changes in behavior among men who have sex with men," AIDS Educ Prev, Dec. 2005, 17(6 Suppl. B), pp. 49-56; (No authors listed) "Latest STD data in United States continues to portend problems with prevention, HIV. Other research notes high STDs among HIV-infected women," AIDS Alert, Dec. 2005, 20(12), pp. 133-6; H.M. Truong and others, "Increases in sexually transmitted infections and sexual risk behaviors without a concurrent increase in HIV incidence among men who have sex with men in San Francisco: a suggestion of HIV serosorting," Sex Transm Infect, Dec. 2006, 82(6), pp. 461-6; R.E. Baughn and D.M. Musher, "Secondary syphilitic lesions," Clin Microbiol Rev, Jan. 2005, 18(1), pp. 205-16.

4. J. Christopherson and others, "Sexually transmitted diseases in hetero-, homo-and bisexual males in Copenhagen," Dan Med Bull (DYN), June 1988, from the abstract, p. 285.

5. N.D. Carr and others, "Noncondylomatous, perianal disease in homosexual men," Br J Surg (B34), Oct. 1989, from the abstract, p. 1064.

6. D. van Baarle and others, "High prevalence of Epstein-Barr virus type 2 among homosexual men is caused by sexual transmission," J Infect Dis, June 2000, from the abstract, p. 2045.

7. K.S. Lim and others, "Role of sexual and non-sexual practices in the transmission of hepatitis B," Br J Vener Dis (B40), June 1977, from the abstract, p. 190; R.S. Remis and others, "Association of hepatitis B virus infection with other sexually transmitted infections in homosexual men," Am J Public Health, Oct. 2000, 90(10), pp. 1570-4; P.J. Saxton, "Sexually transmitted diseases and hepatitis in a national sample of men who have sex with men in New Zealand," N Z Med J, July 26, 2002, 115(1158), p. U106.

8. J.J. Ochnio and others, "Past infection with hepatitis A virus among Vancouver street youth, injection drug users and men who have sex with men: implications for vaccination programs," CMAJ, Aug. 7, 2001, 165(3), pp. 293-7.

9. J.S. Mandel and L.M. Schumann, "Sexual factors and prostate cancer: results from a case-control study," J Gerontol, May 1987, from the abstract, p. 259.

10. Council on Scientific Affairs, op cit, p. 1356.

11. Sheryl Gay Stolberg, "Gay Culture Weighs Sense and Sexuality," New York Times (late edition, east coast), Nov. 23, 1997, section 4, p. 1.

12. CDC, "Internet use and early syphilis infection among men who have sex with men---San Francisco, California, 1999-2003," MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep, Dec. 19, 2003, 52(50), pp. 1229-32.

13. Jim Ritter, "Breast cancer risk higher in lesbians," Chicago Sun-Times, Oct. 16, 1998, p. 50. Another reference for further reading: S.L. Dibble and others, "Comparing breast cancer risk between lesbians and their heterosexual sisters," Women's Health Issues, March-April 2004, 14(2), pp. 60-8.

14. Council on Scientific Affairs, op cit, p. 1355.

15. C.J. Skinner and others, "A case-controlled study of the sexual health needs of lesbians," Genitourin Med, Aug. 1996, from the abstract, p. 227.

16. A. Edwards and R.N. Thin, "Sexually transmitted diseases in lesbians," Int J STD AIDS, May 1990, from the abstract, p. 178.

17. J.M. Marrazzo and others, "Genital human papillomavirus infection in women who have sex with women," J Infect Dis, Dec. 1998, from the abstract, p. 1604.

18. Josh Fischman, "Sticking It To Cancer," U.S. News & World Report, Apr. 3, 2006, p. 58.

19. E.O. Laurnarm and others, The social organization of sexuality: sexual practices in the United States, U. of Chicago Press, 1994.

20. Jose Zuniga, "Viagra Vexation," Windy City Times, May 28, 1998, p. 14.

21. Dennis Altman, The Homosexualization of America, the Americanization of the Homosexual (NY: St. Martin's Press, 1982), p. 222.

22. Monifa Thomas, "Baxter, other drug firms hit with AIDS-related lawsuit," Chicago Sun-Times, April 25, 2005, p. 65.

23. Seymour Kleinberg, Alienated Affections (NY: St. Martin's Press, 1980), p. 178.

Your hilarity doesn't make any sense from my perspective.
Must be a liberal joke, like "binders full of women". Must have to have a certain twist of the mind to get the joke.