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WHAT DRUGS WAS HOLMES TAKING?

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:36 pm
by MSimon

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:27 am
by choff
The guns he used are all legal to own in Canada, though restrictions exist on ammo clip size, and it's a longer process to aquire.
The guy could have a brain lesion/cyst/bubble or rapid onset mental illness, all is speculation at this point, we don't know anything about legal/illegal drugs he might have been using.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:13 am
by MSimon
choff wrote:The guns he used are all legal to own in Canada, though restrictions exist on ammo clip size, and it's a longer process to aquire.
The guy could have a brain lesion/cyst/bubble or rapid onset mental illness, all is speculation at this point, we don't know anything about legal/illegal drugs he might have been using.
All that is probably known by now but the parties to the case have been put under a gag order. It is discussed at the link by my coblogger Eric.

Doubtful he was on any illegal substances...

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:49 am
by jnaujok
The guy has degrees in Neuroscience. He knows every single symptom he needs to present to be ruled as "mentally incompetent". He also knows that the doubly jeopardy law will protect him if he's found "innocent by reason of mental defect."

This guy is waiting to write a book about how he fooled the system.

He 's a sociopath at best, and a full on rational cold-blooded mass murderer at least.

He was planning this for six months. He's not on anything.

Re: Doubtful he was on any illegal substances...

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:13 pm
by choff
jnaujok wrote:The guy has degrees in Neuroscience. He knows every single symptom he needs to present to be ruled as "mentally incompetent". He also knows that the doubly jeopardy law will protect him if he's found "innocent by reason of mental defect."

This guy is waiting to write a book about how he fooled the system.

He 's a sociopath at best, and a full on rational cold-blooded mass murderer at least.

He was planning this for six months. He's not on anything.
If that's true, maybe there's a link to underground San Diego Satanic cults.

Re: Doubtful he was on any illegal substances...

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:45 pm
by ScottL
jnaujok wrote:The guy has degrees in Neuroscience. He knows every single symptom he needs to present to be ruled as "mentally incompetent". He also knows that the doubly jeopardy law will protect him if he's found "innocent by reason of mental defect."

This guy is waiting to write a book about how he fooled the system.

He 's a sociopath at best, and a full on rational cold-blooded mass murderer at least.

He was planning this for six months. He's not on anything.
Ohhh I love conspiracy theories. Plan to make a "documentary" on the subject so I can laugh at your rather amusing claims? Neuro-science is not Psychology, so unless they're hooking him up to an MRI and he's lighting up the "right parts" of his brain, his study will not help him in the slightest. The fact that he has been seing a psychiastrist and was in a Phd program does give him a chance at being a psycho-path, but that is considered a mental illness as it is considered vastly outside the norm of the general population. Because of the murders, he's likely to be admitted to an asylum for the remainder of his life though.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:41 pm
by choff
Unless they x-ray his skull and find something very wrong inside he's probably going to get the chair. Either that or he was guinea pig in a science experiment that went very, very wrong.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:55 pm
by djolds1
choff wrote:Unless they x-ray his skull and find something very wrong inside he's probably going to get the chair. Either that or he was guinea pig in a science experiment that went very, very wrong.
Schiz or psychotic looks increasingly probable. May or may not be enough to save his life - Colorado is Purple nearing Blue.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:05 pm
by MSimon
djolds1 wrote:
choff wrote:Unless they x-ray his skull and find something very wrong inside he's probably going to get the chair. Either that or he was guinea pig in a science experiment that went very, very wrong.
Schiz or psychotic looks increasingly probable. May or may not be enough to save his life - Colorado is Purple nearing Blue.
The Republicans in Colorado - some of them anyway - seem to be coming to their senses.

http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2012/07/6604/

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:15 am
by GIThruster
Anyone who thinks Holmes has an argument that will obtain is as daffy and out of touch as can be.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:20 am
by mvanwink5
It was the G-23 paxilon hydrochlorate we introduced into the air handlers to pacify the population.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:15 pm
by ScottL
GIThruster wrote:Anyone who thinks Holmes has an argument that will obtain is as daffy and out of touch as can be.
I don't think he's coherent enough for an argument. Police are still refusing to say what he's been on and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. It's pretty clear he has a mental illness, whether it be an imbalance or he's a sociopath, either way, it's mental illness.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:36 pm
by choff
I've heard of deranged people being brought to court after being medicated by the police to appear coherent, then the jury rules not insane. In one case a guy that had decapitated his girl friend had enough meds in him to kill 30 normal people and in only made him appear mildly drowsy. Don't know if they still do it.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:44 pm
by GIThruster
My guess is every kind of evil you can find in a human being is labeled somewhere as a mental illness, but this is very different than qualifying for an insanity defense. According to the legal experts who presented on this issue the couple days after the Aurora incident, CO has very stringent demands for an insanity defense, and Holmes is not likely to qualify for several reasons.

Even if he did, it's unlikely a jury or a judge would give him anything less than lethal injection.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:13 pm
by randomencounter
Probably not death penalty. While they still have it on the books it's been over 30 years since anyone got the death penalty in Colorado, and trying to apply it here would open up a legal can of worms that might increase the odds of him ending up a free man before he dies.