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Big science

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:10 am
by Jccarlton
Pictures of Jefferson Labs and the Free Electron Laser from last weekend's open house:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... d1bbbbbf41

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:51 pm
by GIThruster
Very cool! What are the donuts on a rope in the 16th pic?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:40 am
by hanelyp
Do you mean
Image?
That's currently image 20. I think those are microwave driven particle accelerator tubes.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:27 am
by Jccarlton
hanelyp wrote:Do you mean
Image?
That's currently image 20. I think those are microwave driven particle accelerator tubes.
Essentially correct. Those are superconducting RF cavities. They are made from niobuim and kept in 2k liquid helium.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:09 pm
by krenshala
Niobium? I don't think I want to know the pricetag for making them.

They sure look like a very interesting piece of hardware, though.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:11 pm
by Tom Ligon
The embodiments of free electron lasers that I've seen consist of what is basically a cyclotron with a device called a "wiggler" installed on one straight leg of the racetrack. The wiggler is usually illustrated as a device like the one in the picture.

The goal is to introduce a transverse wave in the stream of electrons. The result is a highly tunable laser, handy for readjusting faster than the Borg can compensate.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:14 pm
by ladajo
Those pesky Borg and their modulating shields.

We should just use a Battleship.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:38 am
by KitemanSA
ladajo wrote:We should just use a Battleship.
Did you see "American Warships", the SyFy channel "Battleship" knock-off? It wasn't horribly bad.
"We" beat the aliens by using a museum battleship (USS Iowa, BB-61) that worked only cuz it had no integrated circuits which the aliens could fry. :wink:

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:39 pm
by Tom Ligon
No chips the aliens could fry ... isn't that the tech of "Battlestar?"

I must admit I've never toured the Iowa, but I have toured the Missouri and the Wisconsin. Both were still listed as commissioned and potentially returnable to active duty at the time. So when I arrived in the Missouri's "bat cave" I got a shock when I saw all those computer screens glowing with Microsoft Windows. I mean, who wants to go into battle with computers more concerned with installing new updates to Adobe than with defending the ship?

But I was assured that the PC's were just there to keep the crew entertained. The real equipment was switched off while tourists were coming thru.

Although electronically upgraded, I believe the Iowa Class are still equipped with the WWII-vintage analog fire control systems.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:14 pm
by krenshala
Considering how well those fire-control computers worked, I'm not surprised they kept them. ;)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:05 pm
by djolds1
ladajo wrote:Those pesky Borg and their modulating shields.

We should just use a Battleship.
Nah.

Nuke 'em from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.