Cherokee Elizabeth Warren = Kenyan Barack Obama.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Thu May 17, 2012 11:30 pm

He lied to help his career.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... sia-Hawaii

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Thu May 17, 2012 11:43 pm

Fake Cherokee, Fake Kenyan.

williatw · Post by **williatw** » Fri May 18, 2012 11:58 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... ostpopular

Obama Birther Rumor Debunked As Literary Agent Clarifies Mistake

...However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.
..."This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, who worked for the literary agency Acton & Dystel, told Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

JLawson · Post by **JLawson** » Sat May 19, 2012 2:40 am

williatw wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... ostpopular

Obama Birther Rumor Debunked As Literary Agent Clarifies Mistake

...However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.
..."This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, who worked for the literary agency Acton & Dystel, told Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

Apparently, however, it's the custom for authors to write their own bios. At the very least, Obama should have proofed this - and what literary agent wouldn't have the person they're pushing a book for sign off on the bio they've written for their author?

Mistake? Right. You're seeing someone fall on their sword here for a coverup - not a mistake.

After all - "Hawaii" - "Kenya". They sound so alike, don't they?

Did Obama lie to get street cred, so to speak? Maybe. Was he born in Kenya? Maybe. Do we have the straight dope here? Who knows?

Good lord, folks - you're all smart enough to tell when something like Rossi's rig doesn't make much sense. You can look at the Nanospire stuff and go "Uh, wait just a moment there." (Heck, even I can look at it and go - "Haven't these guys ever heard of radiation shielding? I'm not seeing anything that'd do the job." And compared to most of you guys, I'm a 2nd grader just fiddling with wires, dry cells and flashlight bulbs.)

Isn't something smelling just a little bit off about this? Does that 'mistake' excuse ring true? With Fauxahontas playing off her Cherokee heritage to get jobs - does it perhaps seem possible that Obama used a claim of Kenyan birth to get advantages in college that he otherwise wouldn't have? And used the same here to get a bit of mystery and uniqueness to an otherwise rather mundane bio?

Come to think of it - that might be why we've never seen his college records. If they prominently list him as coming from Kenya, then some uncomfortable questions might have been asked.

And anyone else noticed he worked as a 'financial journalist'? Couldn't convince me he knows the difference between millions, billions, and trillions - he sure doesn't act like the numbers mean actual money!

tomclarke · Post by **tomclarke** » Sat May 19, 2012 10:33 am

Birther silliness reminds me of toads coming out from under a stone with KKK hats on.

I guess though its not much sillier than some of the anti-AGW smear tactics.

And now I've annoyed everypone on this site I'll stop!

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Sat May 19, 2012 3:54 pm

Agree with Tom on that. In Austria any citizen can have any political office. So the whole birther issue, even if it was founded in reality, which it simply is not, seems just plain silly to us here. With campaigns like these, the US once again makes itself the loughing stock for the rest of the world.
Really, get over it, people!
Focus on the real issues and there are plenty of those and not on some virtual non issues. With exploding national debth and recent laws like NDAA and CISPA, one would think that the US has plenty of real issues for discussion in an election year.

mvanwink5 · Post by **mvanwink5** » Sat May 19, 2012 5:53 pm

False bios, lying to take advantage of PC, yes, those are not the big worry. Bankruptcy, double down on failed Keynesian economic prescriptions is the edge of the cliff issue. Nice to have honest Liberal (and "conservative") politicians, their cronies, and caring PC bureaucrats looking out for us like big brothers who know what is good for us (whether we like it or not). After all, we are ignorant in their eyes and they know best, just ask them...
Best regards

PS People who believe in sky flowers are not the issue, it is the observed fact that they always demand company on their way over the cliff to pick those imagined flowers that is the problem.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Sat May 19, 2012 7:52 pm

Nice to have honest Liberal (and "conservative")

Exactly...
If you look at the recent political decisions that were of real importance, then you will see that both republicans and democrats were in on them equally. To me Ron Paul stood out really positively in all this and made some real points with me, when he objected these developments.

mvanwink5 · Post by **mvanwink5** » Sat May 19, 2012 8:30 pm

Exactly.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:08 pm

williatw wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... ostpopular

Obama Birther Rumor Debunked As Literary Agent Clarifies Mistake

...However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.
..."This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, who worked for the literary agency Acton & Dystel, told Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

Sigh...

Still in denial.

Okay, Roger L Simon, with 11 published books, and Jack Cashill with 8 published books discussed this very point between themselves. They said a literary agent NEVER writes a biography for someone else, they always ask the author to submit a biography, and if they edit it at all, they send a copy back to the author for approval.

Not enough proof for ya? Of course not! Well i've also got this.

According to archive.org, a website that caches websites on a regular basis, the Dystel.com website – the official website for Dystel & Goderich, Obama’s literary agents – was using the Barack Obama “born in Kenya” language until April 2007, just two months after then-Senator Obama declared his campaign for the presidency.

Oh, still just a quirk of circumstances you say! Well how about THIS from another Author working FOR the Same Literary agent at the SAME TIME as Obama? He says she made people write their own bios.

In my dealings with Dystel, I found her exceptionally thorough and very professional. She had a template she wanted non-fiction writers to follow, and my writing partner and I followed her template closely. She was rather fastidious, going so far as to mail a personal "Season's Greetings" card in December.

All material she used in our proposals came directly from me and my writing partner. She edited our rough-draft proposals and gave us feedback, but the final versions were all ours. Our final versions, bio included, were then simply photo-copied, by us, and distributed to potential publishers. This was back in the pre-Google days, recall.

I was asked to write the bio in the third person.

But what does this guy know? Maybe she just had a different policy with him. Perhaps she didn't do that with all the authors she represented.

But wait! What is this on her very own website?It's instructions to authors who want her to represent them.

Submission guidelines at the Dystel & Goderich website:

The proposal is broken down into several parts:

"[Y]ou should describe in two or three sentences—no more—what the book will be about. This is followed by another brief paragraph on why it is being written and then another on why you are qualified to write it....Finally, there should be a more formal narrative Bio of the author."

And last but not least, how often does a literary agent make up a birth place for someone else? Supposing she did write his bio for him, where did she get the idea that he was born in Kenya unless he told it to her?

Bear in mind, the book idea he originally was commissioned for had nothing to do with his father. It was supposed to be about his commitment to racial and social justice as a community organizer in Chicago. The original title of the book he was SUPPOSED to be writing at this time was: "Journeys in Black and White."

(Read his bio up above. That's what it says.)

So we are supposed to believe that this woman, Miriam Goderich, just decided for herself he must have been born in Kenya, so that is what she wrote in his bio. Why would she pick Kenya? The book wasn't about his Father, so where did she get the idea he might have been from Kenya?

Occam's razor indicates that she is a lying liberal crapweasle trying to cover up the fact that her darling President is the lyingest liar that has ever sat in the Oval office, and that he used to go around telling people he was from Kenya.

It is like that guy in the Clinton Administration who claimed he was lying to his own diary.

You got served

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:21 pm

tomclarke wrote:Birther silliness reminds me of toads coming out from under a stone with KKK hats on.

Note the veiled insinuation that "birthers" are racists. Screw you jackass! Nobody gives a crap about accusations of Racism anymore. It was the Racists that elected Barack Obama. All they could see was the color of his skin, not the fact that he was an inexperienced idiot who had never held a real job in his entire life. He was "Black"! So therefore we HAD to have him!

Idiots. Didn't Martin Luther King Jr. admonish us not to judge people by the color of their skin, but by the content of their Character? The supporters of Barack Obama exhibited the soft racism of low expectations. They elected him ONLY because he was black, not because he was qualified or competent. Now we can all see what an idiot he is. (And we can see what kind of idiots his supporters are.)

tomclarke wrote: I guess though its not much sillier than some of the anti-AGW smear tactics.

And now I've annoyed everypone on this site I'll stop!

It is my opinion that anyone who believes in AGW after what has been revealed about it is either Ignorant, attempting to gain money or power from pushing it, or Stupid.

Water vapor blows the entire theory away. Anyone that can comprehend water vapor will understand that AGW is an utter crock of Democrat.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:44 pm

Skipjack wrote:Agree with Tom on that. In Austria any citizen can have any political office. So the whole birther issue, even if it was founded in reality, which it simply is not, seems just plain silly to us here. With campaigns like these, the US once again makes itself the loughing stock for the rest of the world.
Really, get over it, people!
Focus on the real issues and there are plenty of those and not on some virtual non issues. With exploding national debth and recent laws like NDAA and CISPA, one would think that the US has plenty of real issues for discussion in an election year.

Yes, we are all very interested in what an Austrian and a Brit has to say about how America should ignore it's Article II eligibility Law. Funny, it was precisely you guys we were fighting when we created it. (I count Hessians as close enough to Austrians.)

There is no better example of why it was important to keep Foreigners out of the Executive branch of Government than this current Un-American Anchor baby currently in the White House.

There is another interesting Development of which you two are no doubt unaware. The Secretary of State of Arizona has asked the State of Hawaii to verify that they have an actual birth certificate for Barack Obama which demonstrates him to have been born in Hawaii.

The Secretary did not ask for a copy of his birth certificate, merely an official verification that Hawaii does indeed have proof that he was born on the Island. It has been Eight weeks, and Hawaii finally sent back a response.

They said (and I paraphrase) " We aren't going to tell you unless you can show an official reason for asking."

His official reason for asking is that He is the Highest Official responsible for overseeing the proper execution of Elections in the State of Arizona, and it is his responsibility to verify that Candidates meet the requirements for the office which they seek.

He has said that if he cannot get a confirmation that there *IS* a record which proves Barack Obama was actually born *IN* Hawaii, Barack Obama will not be permitted on the Presidential Election ballot for the State of Arizona.

So Hawaii took 8 weeks to respond with "Why do you ask?" This could get real funny really fast.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:46 pm

Skipjack wrote:
Nice to have honest Liberal (and "conservative")
Exactly...
If you look at the recent political decisions that were of real importance, then you will see that both republicans and democrats were in on them equally. To me Ron Paul stood out really positively in all this and made some real points with me, when he objected these developments.

Yes, the Republicans have some bastards in their ranks too. Got it. We are trying to kick them out as quickly as we can. We already got Lugar, now we are going to try to make a civilian out of Hatch.

mvanwink5 · Post by **mvanwink5** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:47 pm

He was insulting with the racial insinuation and I took offense. I really was surprised he did that and find it uncivilized. AGW was just to agitate with support for agenda science and pal review. I still stand with the point that it is a diversion and a waste of good time. The European socialism sky flower has failed in Greece with bankruptcy and Germany is being pushed to grab on to that anchor by O. Unfortunately Bernanke is using the Fed and its money to prop up the European banks - they would have failed by now.

This will not end well, as far as I can see. The question is when. I knew what RP would do, I don't know what Romney would do. Washington D.C. is thick with cronies, and thieves.
Best regards

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:47 pm

And this is for Tom.