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Charles Passantino stared at his doctor in disbelief.

A 64-year-old patient with a crippling liver disease, Passantino had received treatment for eight years for chronic pain. He took small doses of oxycodone, a generic painkiller, to free his muscles from stiffness and swelling.

With the pills, he got by. Without them, just walking from bedroom to living room proved unbearable.

Now, with little explanation and no warning, he was being dumped.

In March, Passantino’s doctor told him that his Pierce County clinic, part of the Community Health Care network, was no longer treating chronic-pain patients. The doctor wrote one last oxycodone prescription — 25 pills, 5 milligrams each, good for maybe a week — and suggested that Passantino cut the tablets into pieces, to make them last longer.

Good luck finding another doctor, the physician said.

http://classicalvalues.com/2011/12/enjoy-the-pain/

MSimon wrote:

Charles Passantino stared at his doctor in disbelief.

A 64-year-old patient with a crippling liver disease, Passantino had received treatment for eight years for chronic pain. He took small doses of oxycodone, a generic painkiller, to free his muscles from stiffness and swelling.

With the pills, he got by. Without them, just walking from bedroom to living room proved unbearable.

Now, with little explanation and no warning, he was being dumped.

In March, Passantino’s doctor told him that his Pierce County clinic, part of the Community Health Care network, was no longer treating chronic-pain patients. The doctor wrote one last oxycodone prescription — 25 pills, 5 milligrams each, good for maybe a week — and suggested that Passantino cut the tablets into pieces, to make them last longer.

Good luck finding another doctor, the physician said.

http://classicalvalues.com/2011/12/enjoy-the-pain/

This is your war on drugs. I guess it is the prototype for the coming death panels.

Diogenes wrote:For the poor sap that actually IS in chronic pain, I am sorry that the vast majority of users for pleasure have screwed up legitimate access for you.

Giorgio wrote:

Diogenes wrote:For the poor sap that actually IS in chronic pain, I am sorry that the vast majority of users for pleasure have screwed up legitimate access for you.

I am more sorry to read that your doctor is a moron.
Any doctor who reuses to attend to the need of someone in pain is not keeping his Hippocratic oath.

Diogenes wrote:

Giorgio wrote:

Diogenes wrote:For the poor sap that actually IS in chronic pain, I am sorry that the vast majority of users for pleasure have screwed up legitimate access for you.

I am more sorry to read that your doctor is a moron.
Any doctor who reuses to attend to the need of someone in pain is not keeping his Hippocratic oath.

You aren't understanding the point. When you have so many pill heads demanding drugs, it becomes impossible to tell who is fake and who is real.

Giorgio wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Giorgio wrote: I am more sorry to read that your doctor is a moron.
Any doctor who reuses to attend to the need of someone in pain is not keeping his Hippocratic oath.

You aren't understanding the point. When you have so many pill heads demanding drugs, it becomes impossible to tell who is fake and who is real.

Is not up to a doctor to take such a decisions. If someone in front of him is telling him that he is suffering, than his Hippocratic oath requires him to verify his conditions and treat him at the best of the medical knowledge.
By publicly stating that he refuses to treat such cases he is stopping in being a doctor and becoming a politician.

MSimon wrote:Better that thousands should suffer than a few pleasure addict get their pleasure.

You are no Christian. But you already said that.

Diogenes wrote:

MSimon wrote:Better that thousands should suffer than a few pleasure addict get their pleasure.

You are no Christian. But you already said that.

I am smiling right now because I am shocked at how naive the two of you are. Neither of you must have any experience dealing with drug addicts.

Simon, you've got your numbers backwards. For every REAL complaint, you have a thousand addicts trying to score.

MSimon wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

MSimon wrote:Better that thousands should suffer than a few pleasure addict get their pleasure.

You are no Christian. But you already said that.

I am smiling right now because I am shocked at how naive the two of you are. Neither of you must have any experience dealing with drug addicts.

Simon, you've got your numbers backwards. For every REAL complaint, you have a thousand addicts trying to score.

Ah yes. Better that ordinary people suffer incredible pain than a few drug addicts get high.

MSimon wrote: And BTW I have far more experience with addicts than you imagine.

MSimon wrote: The rule in America used to be that it was better to let many guilty go free than one innocent suffer. We are turning that on its head.

It will not end well. When you have made enough people enemies of the state there will be war in the streets.

MSimon wrote: Delicious thought eh? Because pain sufferers and their relatives will become enemies of the state. You are trying to fix a problem in a way that causes more problems.

The road to HELL.....

MSimon wrote:
When my brother got killed in a drive by 38 years ago I became an enemy of the State. I have been raising my forces. I hope to solve this at the ballot box. But if that doesn't work....

And then there is this bit of added criminality we get: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/world ... s&emc=tha2

BEIRUT, Lebanon — Last February, the Obama administration accused one of Lebanon’s famously secretive banks of laundering money for an international cocaine ring with ties to the Shiite militant group Hezbollah.

At the same time, the investigation that led the United States to the bank, the Lebanese Canadian Bank, provides new insights into the murky sources of Hezbollah’s money. While law enforcement agencies around the world have long believed that Hezbollah is a passive beneficiary of contributions from loyalists abroad involved in drug trafficking and a grab bag of other criminal enterprises, intelligence from several countries points to the direct involvement of high-level Hezbollah officials in the South American cocaine trade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/world ... s&emc=tha2

choff wrote: http://www.theprovince.com/health/Medic ... story.html

A huge spike in arthritis cases amoung young people, either marijuana causes the illness or we've got a bunch of malingerers on our hands. Whatever happened to evelating your pain threshold, bunch of wussies.

MSimon wrote:

choff wrote: http://www.theprovince.com/health/Medic ... story.html

A huge spike in arthritis cases amoung young people, either marijuana causes the illness or we've got a bunch of malingerers on our hands. Whatever happened to evelating your pain threshold, bunch of wussies.

I believe legalization is the cure for that disease.