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choff wrote:and here I thought the drug war had only corrupted CIA, DEA, Justice and Homeland Security.

Two Years Ago, DoJ Said Cartels Were in 230 U.S. Cities

WASHINGTON, DC -- A newly released report by the U.S. Department of Justice shows that Mexican drug cartels are rapidly gaining ground inside the United States, despite expensive efforts by the government to crack down on trafficking. In light of the findings, a group of border patrol agents, police officers and judges is saying that it is time to legalize and regulate drugs in order to de-fund the cartels that make so much money from the illicit drug market.

"As someone who fought on the front lines of the failed 'war on drugs' for decades it is really no surprise to me that our prohibition policy isn't helping to achieve any reduction in drug trafficking," said Terry Nelson, a board member for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and a retired U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent. "We should have learned this lesson decades ago with alcohol prohibition, but let's hope that the data in this new government report helps more members of Congress and Obama administration officials to realize that their 'drug war' strategy is an abysmal failure and that it's time for a new direction."

http://copssaylegalize.blogspot.com/201 ... xican.html

choff wrote:I didn't specifically mention the executive branch or governorships since it could be debated it goes back hundreds of years. Basically during the cold war satellites could read the trademark off a golf ball and nothing could fly over the north pole without being spotted but somehow private aircraft go undetected flying drugs over the Gulf of Mexico.

Following the revelation that a reconnaissance aircraft carrying CIA contract employees participated in the April 20 shoot-down of a plane carrying an American missionary family over the Peruvian Amazon region, Washington has attempted to pin the blame on the Peruvian military. US officials have charged that the Peruvian pilot failed to follow accepted procedures for the interception of suspected drug runners. They have also leaked reports that the American spies objected to the attack that claimed the lives of one missionary, Veronica Bowers, and her seven-month-old daughter, Charity.

Whatever the exchange between the CIA contractors and the Peruvian Air Force officer aboard the spy plane, a Peruvian jet fighter was called in and shot into the plane, killing the woman and her baby. It then continued strafing the survivors—the wounded pilot, Ms. Bowers' husband James and their six-year-old son—as they clung to the plane's burning wreckage after it crashed into the Amazon River.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/apr20 ... -a24.shtml

choff wrote:and here I thought the drug war had only corrupted CIA, DEA, Justice and Homeland Security.

MSimon wrote:

Following the revelation that a reconnaissance aircraft carrying CIA contract employees participated in the April 20 shoot-down of a plane carrying an American missionary family over the Peruvian Amazon region, Washington has attempted to pin the blame on the Peruvian military. US officials have charged that the Peruvian pilot failed to follow accepted procedures for the interception of suspected drug runners. They have also leaked reports that the American spies objected to the attack that claimed the lives of one missionary, Veronica Bowers, and her seven-month-old daughter, Charity.

Whatever the exchange between the CIA contractors and the Peruvian Air Force officer aboard the spy plane, a Peruvian jet fighter was called in and shot into the plane, killing the woman and her baby. It then continued strafing the survivors—the wounded pilot, Ms. Bowers' husband James and their six-year-old son—as they clung to the plane's burning wreckage after it crashed into the Amazon River.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/apr20 ... -a24.shtml

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/0 ... 49074.html

It caused quite a firestorm at the time.

I can't wait for D to explain it away. It should be entertaining if not enlightening.

Giorgio wrote:I hope you guys get rid of those nonsense laws as soon as possible, because as soon as you drop them most of the EU countries will most probably follow the example. Once that is done we can go back to spend time and money on the real issues of our society.

Diogenes wrote:

choff wrote:and here I thought the drug war had only corrupted CIA, DEA, Justice and Homeland Security.

Don't you know? Prohibition is the original sin. It has corrupted all of mankind! It is so malignant that it has created a corruption wave traveling forward and backward throughout time corrupting mankind in the past and in future history not yet written. It is the essence of pure evil. Each and every time a two year old gets it's hand slapped, the wave gains strength!

If we do not take immediate steps to give the self-indulgent people of the world free reign on all their whims, the prohibition time wave will destroy the UNIVERSE!

ladajo wrote:The detect to engage process remains a challenge, and is only getting harder as aircraft transition to non-metallic components. I think in this case you all more or less speak in a vacuum of "googled wikipedia" understanding on systems and process capabilities.

Come on Simon, since when do you know actual capabilities of overhead imagery systems and line of sight or OTH radars?