Electrons as toroidal photons, or as Hubius helices

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DeltaV
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Electrons as toroidal photons, or as Hubius helices

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Is the electron a photon with toroidal topology?

Which means Polywell uses doughnuts not only for the magrid but also as ion bait.

The nature of the electron

Giorgio
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Re: Electrons as toroidal photons, or as Hubius helices

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DeltaV wrote:Is the electron a photon with toroidal topology?

Which means Polywell uses doughnuts not only for the magrid but also as ion bait.

The nature of the electron
Quite interesting papers, they solve some issues but they open new ones.
As example, why should a massless particle follow such a curve?
What force can impose a massless particle such a behaviour?

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Paper 1 seems to be promoting the "power" of boundary conditions (reminds me that Johan Prins also places great emphasis on boundary conditions in his superconductor theory...).
The approach in what follows is to investigate the consequences of demanding periodic boundary conditions of length one wavelength on a quantised electromagnetic wave.
What might bring about such boundary conditions I do not know.

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Johan theory is one that I like quite a lot except for his boundary conditions that was (in my humble opinion) also the weakest point I found in his theory.
I think we discussed more than a week about it, but In the end he was not able to fully convince me about his boundary hypothesis.

I have to say that the same holds true also for these papers. Interesting and bold ideas worth to be explored, but I fell like they just move the basic question of what mass is and from where it comes from to a different (unknown) level while trying to explain what the electron is.

By the way, I wonder what Johan has been up to in these last months.

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A fair amount of hits on related matters:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 4&t=175412
Topological quantum field theory (this part,protons as trefoil light knots, is really interesting)

http://www.physorg.com/news182957628.html
Tying light in knots

http://classicalatom.blogspot.com/2008/ ... otons.html
the neoclassical atom

http://www.physforum.com/index.php?show ... 1824&st=15
Two SR puzzles, paradoxes...?

http://www.physforum.com/index.php?show ... entry25078
Electron is close-looped photon?

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