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I never noticed a Prohibition Amendment. Except for Alcohol.

We will see if they are really Constitutionalists or poseurs.

Given the abject financial crisis, it would be just that--foolish--for the Tea Party to spend even one seconds worth of political capital on attempting any change in the drug laws.

That ought to be at about the third tier of priority.

TDPerk wrote:Given the abject financial crisis, it would be just that--foolish--for the Tea Party to spend even one seconds worth of political capital on attempting any change in the drug laws.

That ought to be at about the third tier of priority.

Well TD it costs $70 bn a year State, Federal, and Local to keep the war running. At least $25 bn of it Federal. That should help.

And then there are unaccounted costs like higher insurance rates for theft. Those run on the order of $100 bn a year.

But not to worry. I have leftist friends and I'm giving them this ammunition. Eventually some one will pick it up and then the TEAs will either come to grips or be destroyed.

I think they will figure it out given the choices: "Keep the Drug War Running" or "Defeat Obama".

Heck. If Obama proposes it first I'm voting straight Democrat.

BTW the Drug War is the last bastion of Racism in America.

http://classicalvalues.com/2011/09/naac ... -drug-war/

Either the Republicans get out front on this or they will be neutered for decades. "The Racist Party" meme will stick.

Yeah. I'm diabolical and without a (short term) conscience. But Drug Prohibition is a blot on the national escutcheon. It is going to get fixed. Why not this year or next?

Here is another one:

http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-st ... erica.html

MSimon wrote: BTW the Drug War is the last bastion of Racism in America.

The first and last is eugenics.


http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html


http://youtu.be/t69hMA45z9s

Diogenes wrote:

MSimon wrote: BTW the Drug War is the last bastion of Racism in America.

The first and last is eugenics.

http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

http://youtu.be/t69hMA45z9s

Uh. D. The GOVERNMENT no longer has a eugenics program. Those who opt out of the future of the human race self select.

But the GOVERNMENT does have a Drug War.

Well not to worry. Since you can't see it coming (despite my explaining it) you will get clobbered by it. Heck. If I can work this right and the Rs choose to remain asleep at the wheel I might even get Obama re-elected. A fitting end to Prohibition don't you think?

A fitting end to a Socialist program. More socialism everywhere else. If the Republicans don't get on this. BTW I'm using the same plan I used to get Polywell refunded on this idea.

The Drug War as a Socialist Enterprise by Milton Friedman

The Drug War is a dagger at the heart of the Republican Party. Either break the dagger or I'm going to shove it in deeper.

MSimon wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

MSimon wrote: BTW the Drug War is the last bastion of Racism in America.

The first and last is eugenics.

http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

http://youtu.be/t69hMA45z9s

Uh. D. The GOVERNMENT no longer has a eugenics program. Those who opt out of the future of the human race self select.

But the GOVERNMENT does have a Drug War.

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Small potatoes in the overall scheme of things. However, It is perhaps, the only thing keeping us from going the way of China.

"Well TD it costs $70 bn a year State, Federal, and Local to keep the war running. At least $25 bn of it Federal. That should help. "

It will only help if it is popularly credible that it will save enough money--instead of costing more than the 70bn--that doing away with it is the right thing to do.

The probably soon (but not yet) exception would be marijuana.

You are asking them to shoot themselves in the head on principle.

I think you place to great a priority on one narrow interpretation of those principles and that you entirely ignore the principle of prudence.

It's a project for Palin's 2nd term.

TDPerk wrote:It will only help if it is popularly credible that it will save enough money

To be the more clear, it will only help if it is that popular, because it will only happen if it is that popular.

I'm going to make it popular. Get ready.

I have two lines of attack.

1. The Constitution for the TEA Party
2. Racism for everyone else

Kind of a one two punch. The left has been looking for a way to pin racism on the Right. This should fit right in.

BTW they don't call Republicans the stupid party for nothing. Of course the Democrats are evil.

I intend to use evil to destroy stupid. It usually works that way anyway. I'm just going to give it a push.

Why the right hates Libertarianism:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/05/into- ... ptation-kn

Why the left hates Libertarianism:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/05/into- ... ptation-kn

Yup. Same article. And it is most amusing.

The Right should get its house in order. We have about 3% of the population directly under the government thumb (Criminal justice). Our incarceration rate is 6X the world average.

It damages the country (and for all you conservatives) it is morally wrong. Conservatives these days seem to know a lot about punishment and very little about morality. Some guy about 2000 years ago made the same complaint about a government he was involved with. I'm told he became famous but no one is interested any more. Pity.

Let me quote a famous Christian.

"Distrust anyone in whom the desire to punish is powerful" Friedrich Nietzsche

Hmm interesting approach.

While I'm anti-prohibition on libertarian grounds alone, I do believe dangerous chemicals need to be controlled. If it can be proved that a chemical poses a grave health risk with a toxicity over that of Ethyl hydrate, then I don't see a problem with control's on its distribution.

Where the government gets mixed up is that it arbitrarily classified chemicals as drugs. The grade of measure seems to be "if it feels good it must be therefor be a dangerous drug" instead of judging by it's health effects.

"I'm going to make it popular. Get ready."

No, MSimon you won't. You're too much of an ass about the topic.

IOW, if you want personally to make any headway, you will have to drastically change your approach.
And I don't see that you have it in you.

Well of course I'm an ass. It is why Dr. Bussard thanked me personally for helping to get Polywell funded. You wouldn't believe how much flack I got at the start of that venture. My ass paid no attention.

But not to worry. It looks like the Democrats are going to help me.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/201 ... ttern.html

From what I can tell the Democrats are going to use Drug War Racism against the right in the next election (it is about all they have - it might be enough). I really love it!!!! My socon friends are going to have to choose between Prohibition and defeating the President. Tough choice. For them. Me? If the Ds run on this I'm all in for them. After all with either party I can only get half of what I want.

Go to the article for more plus links.

It also looks like PBS is going to be helping:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/201 ... movie.html

Though the heavens fall let justice be done.

It is not nice to be abusing abused children.

Which side are you on? (all my old lefty training will come in handy with my new/old friends - heh)