Talk-Polywell.org

palladin9479 wrote:Basically yeah, the Chinese don't need to research their own stuff they can just copy / steal from others.

Basically yeah, the Chinese don't need to research their own stuff they can just copy / steal from others.

Skipjack wrote:They dont even have to steal or spy on us. We give them everything for free by building our factories there! The article completely ignores that.

Giorgio wrote:

Skipjack wrote:They dont even have to steal or spy on us. We give them everything for free by building our factories there! The article completely ignores that.

Unfortunately very few people understand this point.

And why world leader companies should loss that market if sooner or later Chinese in any case will reach access to similar technologies? But later and without Western companies' participation means that those companies would not get any profit from expansion.

Giorgio wrote:

Skipjack wrote:They dont even have to steal or spy on us. We give them everything for free by building our factories there! The article completely ignores that.

Unfortunately very few people understand this point.

palladin9479 wrote:The journalist also threw in the words "classified" and tried to make it appear as though classified systems were accessed / hacked and stolen from. That hasn't yet happened, unclass systems are typically hacked with records / documentation stolen, things like SOP, TTP, developmental journals and so forth. Nothing that was actually classified would be swiped, especially from a private company.

• 2003: China is reported to be the source of most of 294 successful hackings into U.S.
Department of Defense computers. China is also accused of entering computers at U.S.
Army bases at Aberdeen, where it stole data on the Army’s Future Combat System, and
intrusions at Fort Bragg and Fort Hood.
• 2003: National Journal reports that major portions of the U.S. suffer power outages due
to cyber attacks, likely from the PRC.
• August 2005: Reports emerge about “Titan Rain,” code name for a group of Chinese
Internet spies of uncanny skill who had been tracked by the FBI since 2003, as they broke
into multiple U.S. military and defense contractor computers.
• December 2005: Chinese “hackers” reportedly based in Guangdong send personally
tailored e-mails to British Parliamentarians intended to launch “spyware” that seeks and
sends information back to China.
• January 2006: The first FBI Computer Crime Survey covering 2005 reveals that China is
the origin of 25 percent of computer attacks against U.S. businesses.
• June 2006: About 150 Homeland Security Department computers are penetrated and data
sent to a Chinese language web site.
• July 2006: China is reported to have broken into the U.S. State Departments computers
for the purpose of seizing “information, passwords and other data.”
• 2006: China is reported to have attacked and compromised computer systems at the U.S.
Naval War College, National Defense University, and the U.S Army’s Fort Hood,
causing $20 to $30 million in damage to each system.
• June 2007: Chinese military hackers are reported to have broken into computer networks
serving the U.S. Secretary of Defense, forcing the network to be shut down.
• January 2008: A leaked FBI briefing given in January 2008 reveals their suspicions that
uncontrolled or counterfeit CISCO computer routers made in China and widely used by
classified U.S. government and military computers may have created large numbers of
undetectable “back doors” that could be exploited by PLA hackers.

Skipjack wrote:I dont see it that way at all. The whole go to china craze has dont very little positive. Big corporations save a few USD on a car, maybe (most is done by robots anyway here) and that makes the shares go up. Unfortunately it also quite negatively affects the economy in the home land, destroying the market there. Also, rthe quality of goods produced in China is inferior. Some quality manufacturers are feeling the fact that they all of a sudden can not compete with the "quality" argument anymore. Their stuff is just as crap as the the counterfeit produced in China. They are both produced by the same machines, sometimes even in the same factory!
So why not just buy that and save yourself the extra money for the so called "quality" brand? People are not that stupid and they are slowly realizing that if they buy a Ford, they are not really buying an american product anymore. They dont give a darn about the shareholders of Ford, I can tell you that. Its not manufactured in the US, it is not american. Most of the parts come from other parts of the world. In fact a Toyota contains more US parts than a Ford. Kinda sad, hu?

choff wrote:I was always taught in network security if you don't want your important data hacked you kept the relevant computers on networks isolated from the internet, and that went for USB's as well. Short of making every employee take a course in network security it's difficult to make people appreciate this.

ScottL wrote:

choff wrote:I was always taught in network security if you don't want your important data hacked you kept the relevant computers on networks isolated from the internet, and that went for USB's as well. Short of making every employee take a course in network security it's difficult to make people appreciate this.

Ding Ding! Choff is the winner. I really don't get why others don't understand these fundamental concepts. Classified information should be stored in isolated network systems running some form of GP (Group Policy) through their domain. This allows us system administrators to log, track, and disable even the most mundane of components such as ....*gasp* USB ports. To even further the level of security, in all likelihood, the systems an analyst would sit down to would be thin-clients. This would allow all relevent information to be stored in a highly secured centralized data-warehouse/server room/environment.

DeltaV wrote:WW3 a cyber war?
Donilon: White House ‘Will Take Action’ Against Cyber Threats from China